C.O.C.A. Times

Issue: 2003-July - Vol 2 Num 8

HELP ..... What Can You Tell Me???
Was hoping that one of the readers might be able to give us some information about one of the machines
in our collection? We ran a request in CDI a few years ago, but no one could tell us much. Paul suggest-
ed that one of our C.O.C.A. Times readers might have some information.
We picked up the machine (with a whole box of loose parts) at the
Chicago show a few years ago from another collector who didn't
know much about it. He wasn't sure it was complete, or even that
all of the parts in the box were for this machine. He'd also paid a
pretty penny for it, so he naturally couldn't give us a "box lot deal".
We hadn't found anything unusual at the show yet, so we took a
chance. After a good bit of fitting parts here and there, all of them
seemed to belong somewhere in the cabinet.
The machine is very similar to a Mills "Little Firefly", but as you
can see from the pictures, the very attractive castings indicate that
it was made by the Advance Machine Co., of RAVENSWOOD
STATION, CHICAGO USA. The marquee indicates that it was called "THE ACME". It's made of cast
iron and is 9" high, 8-1/4" wide, and 4-1/2" deep with a cast base that is 1-1/2" in height, 9-1/2" wide, and
7-1/2" deep. After being told by a collector of "shockers" that there were some "repros" floating around,
we looked it over very carefully, and all of the parts and castings appear to be "old" and original.
Can anyone help us with an age and/or any other information?
Mike & Pat Gumula, 2127 Crescent Drive, Graham, NC 27253
Call 336-578-3592; or E-mail: mggslots@netpath.net
Letter to the Editor
I am an old collector from way back, started in
around 1975, at the urging of my older brother Orin
Yeager. We used to make all the Chicago shows
together, but he passed away in 1991 and sadly, I
haven't been there since.
Just a reminder to all. .... that C.O.C.A.
has its own web-site. It is maintained
by member Al Fox and has news
regarding shows, auction results, and
classified ads, as well as a question
and answer section.
But my heart is always with the good people I have
met through all the years, coin-op friends, and I
always try to join any group that keeps our hobby
gomg.
Thank You,
John A. Yeager
The address is:
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www.coinopclub.org
The Bally
Reliance
by Johnny Duckworth
Quarter Model
Nickel Model
Nickel Model
Nickel Model
If you have ever seen the Bally Reliance you won't
soon forget it. This dice machine is quite incredible
as you play the game of craps in a slot machine. The
first time you see one you try so hard to figure out
how the machine can possibly do this. It is like
magic. How can it throw the dice, know what num-
ber was actually thrown, and then payoff correctly?
The mechanism is quite complicated compared to
the traditional 3-reeler. The dice slide out of a drum
below the glass in the player's window. It is a tight
space, as the depth isn't much bigger than the actu-
al dice. The dice can slide and bounce all over in the
players window, but there is no way they can roll
over and change the number they are set on. The
dice are preset in two drums, a left and a right. The
left is the first number thrown, otherwise known as
the come out number. If a 7 or 11 are thrown first,
you are a winner. If it is a 2, 3, or 12 you lose. If you
hit another number in the left drum you then need
to hit the same number in the right drum to win. The
secret is each drum holds 13 pair of dice. When the
drum lands in a position it throws the same number
every time for that position. It can then payout if the
Nickel Model
position it landed on is a winner. Production of the
Reliance started in 1935 and it sold originally for
$119.50 for the nickel model and $125.50 for the
quarter model. This machine has so much character
in the way it looks to the way it plays.
Towards the end of production, Bally tried to com-
pete with their bolt-on jackpots which were all for
show. These machines were promoted as the New
Super Flash Reliance. To be more competitive, they
also sold for a reduced price of $92.50 for the nick-
el and $95.50 for the quarter. It resembled the jack-
pot on the 3 reel machines because it boasted a
flashy jackpot bulging with coins. What the player
didn ' t know was that the bolt-on jackpot for the
Reliance is actually separate from the machine
itself and there was no way to physically win the
coins in them. If you were lucky enough to hit the
jackpot you still received the $5 or $25 jackpot
token depending on the denomination played. The
tokens were concealed in the window on the front
of the machine. If the machine had the bolt-on jack-
pot added, the tokens were hidden. The tokens
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