Music Trade Review
Issue: 1916 Vol. 63 N. 8 - Page 45
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THE MUSIC TRADE
45
REVIEW
SOME OF THE PROBLEMS FOUND IN THE VENEER ROOM
A Careful Examination of Veneer in the Rough Will Often Save a Great Amount of Trouble in
Working the Same—The Difference Between Fancy and Ordinary Veneers
of waste
waste in cutting ve-
There are many men who claim that it is ab- an enormous amount of
solutely impossible to detect defects in veneer neers and could use this to good advantage.
while it is in the rough. If some study were The manufacturer using the short stock may
given to veneers as well as glue, there would buy long lengths, paying the long price, where-
not be as many veneer room problems, and bet- as he could buy waste stock (in stating waste
ter quality would result in many veneering de- stock I do not mean defective veneer, but stock
too short or narrow, which must be clear and in
partments.
When you buy a pair of shoes you likely do perfect condition).
not buy the first pair the clerk hands you; in- Again, we find the veneer user who claims:
stead, you study and compare every pair; you "Why should I pay the price for wide veneer;
look for the best pair, price considered. The I can buy narrow, have this taped and save
same care should be applied in the selecting of money." Unfortunately this buyer does not
veneers. Compare higher and lower grades, consider the time required to tape the veneer
note the peculiarities of fiber and construction, in order to get desired widths and the waste
follow it to the veneer room and note the con- necessary in so doing. Of course, the veneer
ditions under which the veneer is laid, follow manufacturer should not be expected to keep all
it along and through the finishing room until his narrow stock. There are hundreds of places
it is ready for the market. Examine each side where narrow stock is used and can be sold at a
carefully, bending it gently so as to make each profit. My argument is that the manufacturer
side, as you look at it, slightly convex, and you requiring wide stock has no business buying
will notice as you bend it that the fiber of the narrow. To be sure, wide stock is more expen-
wood parts and the pores enlarge more on the sive, and rightly so. When buying clear, wide
one side than on the other. The side where and long boards you pay more than for shorts.
this is most noticeable is the wrong side of the Supposing we apply this to mahogany. Mahog-
veneer. The same peculiarities may be observed any shorts can be bought for less money than
on the right side, but they are not so pro- regular lumber lengths. The logic and the
nounced. This examination will enable you to practice in relation to lumber holds good in
detect defects as well as enable you to dis- veneer also.
tinguish between the right and wrong side of
It is not uncommon to find factories requir-
veneer.
ing very thin and heavier veneers. Some man-
The veneer man who does not thoroughly un- ufacturers may argue one thickness will do for
derstand veneers has no business looking for both classes of work. This is not true. Where
bargains. When a veneer man becomes so ex- much bending is required, as, for instance, in
pert that he can distinguish between the finer veneering davenport or sofa arms, etc., it would
shades that go to make up quality in veneer, be necessary to apply thin veneer. On straight
then, and then only, is he qualified to buy ve- work, such as panels and chairs, fronts, etc.,
neers at bargains. By giving personal atten- heavier stock is more desirable.
tion to selecting the veneer, an expert of this
In going through a veneer room recently, a
kind may, by trading on the ignorance of manu- writer in Veneers noticed a lot of open veneer
facturers who have not yet realized the value of joints. An investigation proved that this work
their product, be able to pick up bargains and was done by a young man, who had just been
save a considerable amount of money.
engaged by the. veneer room foreman and had
Considering the value of veneers to start had no experience. Joints are very important.
with, and the expense necessary to get the re- It is unnecessary to state that the joints re-
sults striven for, the reader cannot help but ap- ferred to were butt joints—a lap joint is far
preciate the importance of what has been said. more satisfactory, but requires a little more
Consider first the best quality of veneer for the time.
purpose in hand, then the price. Again, money
Fancy veneers cannot be laid in the same
can be saved buying veneers of lengths and manner as the ordinary veneers. Many do not
widths as required. Some manufacturers have consider the effect of moisture on the different
textures, and therefore proceed to lay fancy
veneers just as they would plain. Result? Un-
even expansion and poor joints. As to fancy
veneers, as, for instance, crotch mahogany,
these require some preparation. They must dry
CINCINNATI, O.
out and check as much as they will ever check,
Importers and Manufacturers of Figured
t'en the pores must be filled up until all the
Mahogany and Foreign Woods for high-
libers are locked rigidly in place. Finally, they
grade piano cases and cabinets.
must never be allowed to swell again, in the lay-
m
m
^ ^^^^^ Nmw York Office and Sample Room
ing or the subsequent finishing.
The secret of laying end-wood veneers is to
Grand Central Palace Bldg.
treat and handle them properly. If the veneer
Lexington Aye. and 46th St.
G. H. VAUGHAN. Eastern Representative
is properly treated and correctly laid it will
stand up indefinitely without checking unless
The Ohio Veneer Co.
American - Made
Tuning Pins
will stand the most tensile strength
"AMSCO"
BRAND
ARE MADE OF SPECIAL STEEL
Thirty-five years of experience in mak-
ing tuning pins enables us to give you
the most reliable pins in the market.
Guaranteed to hold for a lifetime.
Send for sample set
and prices
And when you're satisfied
that we've the best punch-
ings on the market, cut
clean and accurately from
the best of material in cellu-
loid, cloth, felt, fibre,
leather, paper, rubber or
whatever you want, give
us credit and send your
orders to
C.F. G0EPEL*C0
137 E A S T I3ia ST.
NEW
YORK
the veneered piece is allowed to become filled
with moisture from long storage in a damp
warehouse or storeroom.
So many of the small plants one visits use the
old-time glue pots and brushes. Some of these
men cannot see the advantages of a glue-
spreader. Of course, many very small furni-
ture factories do but little veneering and re-
quire but a few handserews, screw presses, a
small glue-cooker and a pot or two. Where a
very little veneering is done, and consequently
little glue used, there is a disposition to keep
it standing melted in the cooker from day to
day.
There have been some cases where five or six
gallons are prepared, once a week. In the mean-
time this glue is being reheated time and again.
When it becomes too thick, a little more water
and heat are added. This is wasting glue, pure
and simple, and cannot help but result in poor
work. Remember that the quality of the glue is
as important as the quality of the veneer or
core stock. The fact that glue cost is the
smallest material cost entering into your prod-
uct does not by any means make it insignifi-
cant.
Really the economy and management of tht
veneering business requires good "horse sen.-e '
and experience. There isn't a man in the busi-
ness who doesn't learn every day, and there
is not one man who cannot be taught.
Manager Lome Odell, of the W. W. Kimball
Co., Broadway and Mason street, Milwaukee,
Wis , recently arranged a very attractive win-
dow display, the feature of which was a Kim-
ball player-piano which was awarded a grand
prize at the Panama-Pacific Exposition.
One Reason
for our continued suc-
cess and steady growth
is the fact that we use
the best grade of Pig
Iron obtainable.
American Musical Supply Co.
Matawan Steel & Iron Co.
451 Communipaw Avenue, Jersey City, N. J.
MVTAWAN, N. J.
BRANCH OFFICES:
Chicago
160 No. Fifth Ayr.
m MM I nv i s ible
P Hinges
are Apparent
Some of the sizes shown indicate the
variety of " S O S S " Hinges which we
manufacture for use on pianos, player-
pianos, talking machines and music
cabinets.
There is a particular "SOSS" Hinge
l>est suited for your requirements.
Our illustrated catalog " S " gives
complete and interesting information.
Write for a copy and for quotations on
your particular requirements.
So»i Manufacturing Company,
435-443 Atlantic Are., Brooklyn, N. Y.
San Franciuo
164 H.n.ford Bl< (.
Los Anf elei
Z24 Central Bld(.
Minneapolis
3416 Second A»e.,So.
Detroit
922 Darid Whitney
Bnildinc
THE MUSIC TRADE
45
REVIEW
SOME OF THE PROBLEMS FOUND IN THE VENEER ROOM
A Careful Examination of Veneer in the Rough Will Often Save a Great Amount of Trouble in
Working the Same—The Difference Between Fancy and Ordinary Veneers
of waste
waste in cutting ve-
There are many men who claim that it is ab- an enormous amount of
solutely impossible to detect defects in veneer neers and could use this to good advantage.
while it is in the rough. If some study were The manufacturer using the short stock may
given to veneers as well as glue, there would buy long lengths, paying the long price, where-
not be as many veneer room problems, and bet- as he could buy waste stock (in stating waste
ter quality would result in many veneering de- stock I do not mean defective veneer, but stock
too short or narrow, which must be clear and in
partments.
When you buy a pair of shoes you likely do perfect condition).
not buy the first pair the clerk hands you; in- Again, we find the veneer user who claims:
stead, you study and compare every pair; you "Why should I pay the price for wide veneer;
look for the best pair, price considered. The I can buy narrow, have this taped and save
same care should be applied in the selecting of money." Unfortunately this buyer does not
veneers. Compare higher and lower grades, consider the time required to tape the veneer
note the peculiarities of fiber and construction, in order to get desired widths and the waste
follow it to the veneer room and note the con- necessary in so doing. Of course, the veneer
ditions under which the veneer is laid, follow manufacturer should not be expected to keep all
it along and through the finishing room until his narrow stock. There are hundreds of places
it is ready for the market. Examine each side where narrow stock is used and can be sold at a
carefully, bending it gently so as to make each profit. My argument is that the manufacturer
side, as you look at it, slightly convex, and you requiring wide stock has no business buying
will notice as you bend it that the fiber of the narrow. To be sure, wide stock is more expen-
wood parts and the pores enlarge more on the sive, and rightly so. When buying clear, wide
one side than on the other. The side where and long boards you pay more than for shorts.
this is most noticeable is the wrong side of the Supposing we apply this to mahogany. Mahog-
veneer. The same peculiarities may be observed any shorts can be bought for less money than
on the right side, but they are not so pro- regular lumber lengths. The logic and the
nounced. This examination will enable you to practice in relation to lumber holds good in
detect defects as well as enable you to dis- veneer also.
tinguish between the right and wrong side of
It is not uncommon to find factories requir-
veneer.
ing very thin and heavier veneers. Some man-
The veneer man who does not thoroughly un- ufacturers may argue one thickness will do for
derstand veneers has no business looking for both classes of work. This is not true. Where
bargains. When a veneer man becomes so ex- much bending is required, as, for instance, in
pert that he can distinguish between the finer veneering davenport or sofa arms, etc., it would
shades that go to make up quality in veneer, be necessary to apply thin veneer. On straight
then, and then only, is he qualified to buy ve- work, such as panels and chairs, fronts, etc.,
neers at bargains. By giving personal atten- heavier stock is more desirable.
tion to selecting the veneer, an expert of this
In going through a veneer room recently, a
kind may, by trading on the ignorance of manu- writer in Veneers noticed a lot of open veneer
facturers who have not yet realized the value of joints. An investigation proved that this work
their product, be able to pick up bargains and was done by a young man, who had just been
save a considerable amount of money.
engaged by the. veneer room foreman and had
Considering the value of veneers to start had no experience. Joints are very important.
with, and the expense necessary to get the re- It is unnecessary to state that the joints re-
sults striven for, the reader cannot help but ap- ferred to were butt joints—a lap joint is far
preciate the importance of what has been said. more satisfactory, but requires a little more
Consider first the best quality of veneer for the time.
purpose in hand, then the price. Again, money
Fancy veneers cannot be laid in the same
can be saved buying veneers of lengths and manner as the ordinary veneers. Many do not
widths as required. Some manufacturers have consider the effect of moisture on the different
textures, and therefore proceed to lay fancy
veneers just as they would plain. Result? Un-
even expansion and poor joints. As to fancy
veneers, as, for instance, crotch mahogany,
these require some preparation. They must dry
CINCINNATI, O.
out and check as much as they will ever check,
Importers and Manufacturers of Figured
t'en the pores must be filled up until all the
Mahogany and Foreign Woods for high-
libers are locked rigidly in place. Finally, they
grade piano cases and cabinets.
must never be allowed to swell again, in the lay-
m
m
^ ^^^^^ Nmw York Office and Sample Room
ing or the subsequent finishing.
The secret of laying end-wood veneers is to
Grand Central Palace Bldg.
treat and handle them properly. If the veneer
Lexington Aye. and 46th St.
G. H. VAUGHAN. Eastern Representative
is properly treated and correctly laid it will
stand up indefinitely without checking unless
The Ohio Veneer Co.
American - Made
Tuning Pins
will stand the most tensile strength
"AMSCO"
BRAND
ARE MADE OF SPECIAL STEEL
Thirty-five years of experience in mak-
ing tuning pins enables us to give you
the most reliable pins in the market.
Guaranteed to hold for a lifetime.
Send for sample set
and prices
And when you're satisfied
that we've the best punch-
ings on the market, cut
clean and accurately from
the best of material in cellu-
loid, cloth, felt, fibre,
leather, paper, rubber or
whatever you want, give
us credit and send your
orders to
C.F. G0EPEL*C0
137 E A S T I3ia ST.
NEW
YORK
the veneered piece is allowed to become filled
with moisture from long storage in a damp
warehouse or storeroom.
So many of the small plants one visits use the
old-time glue pots and brushes. Some of these
men cannot see the advantages of a glue-
spreader. Of course, many very small furni-
ture factories do but little veneering and re-
quire but a few handserews, screw presses, a
small glue-cooker and a pot or two. Where a
very little veneering is done, and consequently
little glue used, there is a disposition to keep
it standing melted in the cooker from day to
day.
There have been some cases where five or six
gallons are prepared, once a week. In the mean-
time this glue is being reheated time and again.
When it becomes too thick, a little more water
and heat are added. This is wasting glue, pure
and simple, and cannot help but result in poor
work. Remember that the quality of the glue is
as important as the quality of the veneer or
core stock. The fact that glue cost is the
smallest material cost entering into your prod-
uct does not by any means make it insignifi-
cant.
Really the economy and management of tht
veneering business requires good "horse sen.-e '
and experience. There isn't a man in the busi-
ness who doesn't learn every day, and there
is not one man who cannot be taught.
Manager Lome Odell, of the W. W. Kimball
Co., Broadway and Mason street, Milwaukee,
Wis , recently arranged a very attractive win-
dow display, the feature of which was a Kim-
ball player-piano which was awarded a grand
prize at the Panama-Pacific Exposition.
One Reason
for our continued suc-
cess and steady growth
is the fact that we use
the best grade of Pig
Iron obtainable.
American Musical Supply Co.
Matawan Steel & Iron Co.
451 Communipaw Avenue, Jersey City, N. J.
MVTAWAN, N. J.
BRANCH OFFICES:
Chicago
160 No. Fifth Ayr.
m MM I nv i s ible
P Hinges
are Apparent
Some of the sizes shown indicate the
variety of " S O S S " Hinges which we
manufacture for use on pianos, player-
pianos, talking machines and music
cabinets.
There is a particular "SOSS" Hinge
l>est suited for your requirements.
Our illustrated catalog " S " gives
complete and interesting information.
Write for a copy and for quotations on
your particular requirements.
So»i Manufacturing Company,
435-443 Atlantic Are., Brooklyn, N. Y.
San Franciuo
164 H.n.ford Bl< (.
Los Anf elei
Z24 Central Bld(.
Minneapolis
3416 Second A»e.,So.
Detroit
922 Darid Whitney
Bnildinc
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