Music Trade Review
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THE MUSICAL CRITIC AND TRADE REVIEW.
366
CASE MAKERS BATHES MIXED.
W. McGINNIS had a leg and lyre factory on
• West Twenty-fourth street when the Diel-
C
ruanti fire destroyed the Dielmann piano case fac-
tory. O. D. Persons was in Dielmann's employ.
After the fire, McGinnis and Persons got to talk-
ing about capturing the whole of Dielmann's
trade, especially as that factory would not be re-
built.
So they talked and talked until one day the
McGinnis leg and lyre factory burned down.
Next to the ruins a building which could be util-
ized for their purposes was taken, and legs, lyres,
and cases were started at a lively rate. This lasted
several months.
On June 6 a sheriffs sale disposed of the whole
business, or, as McGinnis said, "every stick of
wood belongs to the party that bought the con-
cern."
Persons says he was a partner, and knows noth-
ing about all this selling out.
McGinnis says: "Persons had no money in it
at all; not one cent."
Persons says he has a bill of sale on the boiler
and engine.
McGinnis says "You're another."
Persons says he protests against any one paying
McGinnis any money, and that McGinnis knows
nothing about case-making anyhow, and that he
(Persons) had all the experience and did all the
business anyhow. He says he knows nothing
about Gilmartin, the party that bought the con-
cern out at the sheriffs sale.
McGinnis says the business is going right along
as lively as ever, notwithstanding the sale and
Persons's talk.
McGinnis also says that B. N. Smith's hand is
shown in this transaction, and he talks about a
claim against him brought by B. N. Smith, for
which he would not give him ten cents, although
it cost Smith fifty odd dollars.
And thus the case-making business on Twenty-
fourth street is progressing.
It looks rather mixed at present, but yet may
terminate satisfactorily to all parties concerned,
except those that are in the meantime waiting for
their cases.
L70N & HEALY, CHICAGO, ILL.
MR. LYON'S VIEWS.
And it does not satisfy him if the dealer says "It
was made for us." Of course, they paid on an
average about $250 to $300 for these pianos, and
now, when they want to dispose of them, and are
offered $50 to $75 apiece, they are surprised.
Heads of families forget that not alone the teacher,
but the piano also must help to educate the pupil.
The pupil spends the greater part of the time with
the piano, not with the teacher. Then when the
pupil has been singing with such accompani-
ment, the voice is as poor as the tone of the piano,
and if the pupil studies the piano, the touch will
be as bad as the piano itself is."
"Still, Mr. Lyon, a great many of these pianos
are being sold?"
"Oh, yes; some unprincipled daalers out West
have local influence, and have agents, and even
runners out all the time, who misrepresent the
instruments they sell, and go so far as to tell pur-
chasers that the large, reliable houses in the East
make them for the dealers. As an instance of
the extent of this kind of business, I will men-
tion a case that came under my personal obser-
vation. I sold a gentleman a Steinway piano
for $550, and one of these agents or runners got
a hold of the purchaser, and succeeded only a
short while after in inducing him to trade it off
for a $225 to $250 stenciled piano, and the dealer
got the Steinway for his piano and was paid $150
besides. Of course such a transaction will sooner
or later be exposed. The Steinway costs the
agent $450, and the dealer who received it in ex-
change actually sold it for $350. But I do not
care to say anything more about such business
transactions."
"What will be the size of your warerooms with
the new addition you have leased?"
"We will have about sixty feet on State street
by one hundred and twenty-five feet on Monroe
street, the building being four stories high with
basement."
Cuba, 1 Organ
Mexico, 2 Musical Instruments
China, 2 Organs
Argentine Republic, 3 Pianos
U. S. of Colombia, 3 Musical Instruments...
"
"
1 Orguinette
"
"
1 Piano
Sandwich Islands, 5 Organs
Total
63
253
150
1,309
359
36
650
312
$8,370
Imports.
205 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments
$18,575
Week ending June 3.
Exports.
Hamburg, 250 Sounding Boards
''
6 Cases Veneers
"
1 Case Hammerfelt
Total
$ 675
500
1,275
$2,350
PORT OF BOSTON.
Week ending June 2.
Exports.
England, Organs
Scotland, Organs
Nova Scotia, Piano
Spanish Possessions, Organs
Total
$ 1,749
875
300
126
$3,050
Imports.
England, Musical Instruments
$2,701
NEW PUBLICATIONS.
OLIVER DITSON & Co., BOSTON, MASS.
"Zenobia, Queen of Palmyra." Lyric opera in four
acts. By S. G. Pratt. Dedicated to Miss Annie
Louise Cary, for whom the chief role was written.
Potpourri, from the operette, the "Merry War."
By Johanti Strauss. Price, 80 cents.
"The Smuggler." Song. Music by Fabio Cam-
pana. Words by Charles Searle. Price, 40 cents.
"Oxford Galop." For piano. By Ed. H. Bene-
dict. Price, 50 cents.
"Sun Song, or What Makes the Birds 80 Merry?"
Words by Ed. B. Robinson. Music by Geo. C. Rex-
ford. Price, 30 cents.
EZPOETS AND IMPOSTS.
POET or
June 20th, 1882.
NEW YORK;.
Week ending May 31, 1882.
Exports.
British Poss. in Africa, 22 Organs
Mexico, 4 Miscellaneous Musical Insts
" 3 Pianos
"
3 Organs
Chili, 7 Pianos
Amsterdam, 6 Organs
London, 5 Organs
Bremen, 3 Organs
Hamburg, 6 Piano Materials
1 Organ
Bristol, 2 Organs
Liverpool, 17 Organs
$ 1,421
500
1,600
155
3,025
444
"Jumbo's March." For piano. By George Barn-
294
275 ham. Price, 60 cents.
861
"Stephanie." Gavotte de la Princesse, pour piano,
100 par Alphons Czibulka. Price, 40 cents.
236
"Day is Done." Song. Words by H. W. Longfel-
1,830
low. Music by Annie F. Loud. Price, 50 cents.
Total
$10,741
"Jesu*, Lover of My Soul."
Sacred Quartette,
with solos for soprano and alto. By T. P. Ryder.
Imports.
Price, 50 cents.
278 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments. . . . $27,621 C. H. DITSON & Co., 843 BROADWAY, N E W YORK
One of the largest firms and dealers in pianos,
organs, musical merchandise, and sheet music in
the United States, is Lyon & Healy, of Chicago.
Mr. Lyon has been identified with the best in-
terests of the trade for many years, and his views
are valuable to trade interests throughout the
country.
Daring a conversation with our representative
recently, he stated that the business of the firm
has, during the past three months, been ten per
cent, greater than during the same period last
year.
"The sales of Stein way pianos has increased
largely daring the same time over the similar
period in 1881," continued Mr. Lyon. "We also
Week Ending June 7.
find that uprights are supplying the place of or-
gans in many instances with us; that is, with our
Exports.
especial trade. All through the West, out to the
U. S. Colombia, 3 Miscellaneous Mus. lusts.
Pacific coast, business has been excellent."
"
"
1 Piano
"How is it in small goods?"
Venezuela, 1 Piano.
"It never has been better."
6 Piano Materials
"What is your proportion between sales of Hamburg,
"
5 Sounding Boards
squares and of uprights?"
British East Indies, 1 Organ
"Well, about forty uprights to one square; it is Liverpool, 1 Piano
nearly all uprights and grands now. During my
"
6 Organs
visit this time to the East, I shall buy from Stein- Avonmouth Dock, 1 Organ
way alone sixty uprights and five grands, and—no London, 1 Organ
squares. This, with my present stock, will last Glasgow, 7 Organs
until August, when I will make my Fall purchases. Brit. N. Am. Colonies, 5 Pianos
I select all my pianos personally, this being one of Porto Rico, 1 Piano
Genoa, 1 Piano
my business principles."
Poss. in Africa, 6 Organs
"What opinion have you about trade this Sum- Brit.
"
" in Australasia, 9 Organs
mer and Fall?"
Mexico, 16 Pianos
"If the general trade remains good, and the
people get down to work—that is, the strike
Total
ceasea—my impression is that the trade this Fall
Imports.
will be good. Crops are in splendid condition in
Minnesota, Iowa, Dakota, and the adjacent region.
And let me state here, that farmers will hereafter 206 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments
purchase really good instruments. Their daugh-
Week ending June 14.
ters have been East, and in the music schools, and
with good teachers in Chicago, and when they re-
Exp jrts.
turn home they will want good pianos—in fact,
Hamburg,
3
Pianos
this is now the case. They are tired of the stencil
"
2 Organs
or humbug pianos, and look upon the piano ped-
26 Organs
ler in the country with considerable caution. A Bremen,
19 Organs
great many of these stenciled pianos have been Rotterdam,
5 Organs
put into the houses of Western farmers, and now London,
West Indies, 6 Organs
that they have become worthless as musical in- British
Liverpool, 10 Organs
struments, the farmer asks who made this piano?
"
1 Piano
CITY.
"Rock of Ages." (Dr. Thomas Hastings.) Trans-
cription. For piano. By A. E. Warren. Price, 50
cents.
$ 336
300
393
THE STRIKE IN ALBANY, N. Y.
195
575
EDWABD M'OAMMON.
153
A representative of THE MUSICAL CRITIC AND
500
600 TRADE REVIEW was informed that the strike at
175 Edward MoCammon's factory ended on June 12,
100 after having lasted seven weeks.
580
"We were short of goods, as a consequence of
840 the strike, and new orders were rapidly accumu-
250 lating, and I thought best to come to the ar-
450 rangement suggested by the committee," said Mr.
430 McCammon; "for on my part I had nothing to say
450
5,235 to them. The Albany committee accepted all the
$11,562
$25,434
$1,125
138
1,200
1,180
250
325
630
400
points suggested, and such of my points as they
were not empowered to accept, they had to submit
to the committee of the Piano Makers' Union in
New York. The president and another official of
the Union came on from New York, and soon had
matters arranged."
"Were there any special conditions which made
a difference, compared to the conditions prior to
the strike?"
"The majority of the men went to work without
any advance at all; a few got five and some ten
per cent, advance. They all said they had enough
of the strike, and didn't want any more."
"What do you think of trade?"
"There is every indication that we will be busy
during July and August, as orders are constantly
coming in."
THE MUSICAL CRITIC AND TRADE REVIEW.
366
CASE MAKERS BATHES MIXED.
W. McGINNIS had a leg and lyre factory on
• West Twenty-fourth street when the Diel-
C
ruanti fire destroyed the Dielmann piano case fac-
tory. O. D. Persons was in Dielmann's employ.
After the fire, McGinnis and Persons got to talk-
ing about capturing the whole of Dielmann's
trade, especially as that factory would not be re-
built.
So they talked and talked until one day the
McGinnis leg and lyre factory burned down.
Next to the ruins a building which could be util-
ized for their purposes was taken, and legs, lyres,
and cases were started at a lively rate. This lasted
several months.
On June 6 a sheriffs sale disposed of the whole
business, or, as McGinnis said, "every stick of
wood belongs to the party that bought the con-
cern."
Persons says he was a partner, and knows noth-
ing about all this selling out.
McGinnis says: "Persons had no money in it
at all; not one cent."
Persons says he has a bill of sale on the boiler
and engine.
McGinnis says "You're another."
Persons says he protests against any one paying
McGinnis any money, and that McGinnis knows
nothing about case-making anyhow, and that he
(Persons) had all the experience and did all the
business anyhow. He says he knows nothing
about Gilmartin, the party that bought the con-
cern out at the sheriffs sale.
McGinnis says the business is going right along
as lively as ever, notwithstanding the sale and
Persons's talk.
McGinnis also says that B. N. Smith's hand is
shown in this transaction, and he talks about a
claim against him brought by B. N. Smith, for
which he would not give him ten cents, although
it cost Smith fifty odd dollars.
And thus the case-making business on Twenty-
fourth street is progressing.
It looks rather mixed at present, but yet may
terminate satisfactorily to all parties concerned,
except those that are in the meantime waiting for
their cases.
L70N & HEALY, CHICAGO, ILL.
MR. LYON'S VIEWS.
And it does not satisfy him if the dealer says "It
was made for us." Of course, they paid on an
average about $250 to $300 for these pianos, and
now, when they want to dispose of them, and are
offered $50 to $75 apiece, they are surprised.
Heads of families forget that not alone the teacher,
but the piano also must help to educate the pupil.
The pupil spends the greater part of the time with
the piano, not with the teacher. Then when the
pupil has been singing with such accompani-
ment, the voice is as poor as the tone of the piano,
and if the pupil studies the piano, the touch will
be as bad as the piano itself is."
"Still, Mr. Lyon, a great many of these pianos
are being sold?"
"Oh, yes; some unprincipled daalers out West
have local influence, and have agents, and even
runners out all the time, who misrepresent the
instruments they sell, and go so far as to tell pur-
chasers that the large, reliable houses in the East
make them for the dealers. As an instance of
the extent of this kind of business, I will men-
tion a case that came under my personal obser-
vation. I sold a gentleman a Steinway piano
for $550, and one of these agents or runners got
a hold of the purchaser, and succeeded only a
short while after in inducing him to trade it off
for a $225 to $250 stenciled piano, and the dealer
got the Steinway for his piano and was paid $150
besides. Of course such a transaction will sooner
or later be exposed. The Steinway costs the
agent $450, and the dealer who received it in ex-
change actually sold it for $350. But I do not
care to say anything more about such business
transactions."
"What will be the size of your warerooms with
the new addition you have leased?"
"We will have about sixty feet on State street
by one hundred and twenty-five feet on Monroe
street, the building being four stories high with
basement."
Cuba, 1 Organ
Mexico, 2 Musical Instruments
China, 2 Organs
Argentine Republic, 3 Pianos
U. S. of Colombia, 3 Musical Instruments...
"
"
1 Orguinette
"
"
1 Piano
Sandwich Islands, 5 Organs
Total
63
253
150
1,309
359
36
650
312
$8,370
Imports.
205 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments
$18,575
Week ending June 3.
Exports.
Hamburg, 250 Sounding Boards
''
6 Cases Veneers
"
1 Case Hammerfelt
Total
$ 675
500
1,275
$2,350
PORT OF BOSTON.
Week ending June 2.
Exports.
England, Organs
Scotland, Organs
Nova Scotia, Piano
Spanish Possessions, Organs
Total
$ 1,749
875
300
126
$3,050
Imports.
England, Musical Instruments
$2,701
NEW PUBLICATIONS.
OLIVER DITSON & Co., BOSTON, MASS.
"Zenobia, Queen of Palmyra." Lyric opera in four
acts. By S. G. Pratt. Dedicated to Miss Annie
Louise Cary, for whom the chief role was written.
Potpourri, from the operette, the "Merry War."
By Johanti Strauss. Price, 80 cents.
"The Smuggler." Song. Music by Fabio Cam-
pana. Words by Charles Searle. Price, 40 cents.
"Oxford Galop." For piano. By Ed. H. Bene-
dict. Price, 50 cents.
"Sun Song, or What Makes the Birds 80 Merry?"
Words by Ed. B. Robinson. Music by Geo. C. Rex-
ford. Price, 30 cents.
EZPOETS AND IMPOSTS.
POET or
June 20th, 1882.
NEW YORK;.
Week ending May 31, 1882.
Exports.
British Poss. in Africa, 22 Organs
Mexico, 4 Miscellaneous Musical Insts
" 3 Pianos
"
3 Organs
Chili, 7 Pianos
Amsterdam, 6 Organs
London, 5 Organs
Bremen, 3 Organs
Hamburg, 6 Piano Materials
1 Organ
Bristol, 2 Organs
Liverpool, 17 Organs
$ 1,421
500
1,600
155
3,025
444
"Jumbo's March." For piano. By George Barn-
294
275 ham. Price, 60 cents.
861
"Stephanie." Gavotte de la Princesse, pour piano,
100 par Alphons Czibulka. Price, 40 cents.
236
"Day is Done." Song. Words by H. W. Longfel-
1,830
low. Music by Annie F. Loud. Price, 50 cents.
Total
$10,741
"Jesu*, Lover of My Soul."
Sacred Quartette,
with solos for soprano and alto. By T. P. Ryder.
Imports.
Price, 50 cents.
278 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments. . . . $27,621 C. H. DITSON & Co., 843 BROADWAY, N E W YORK
One of the largest firms and dealers in pianos,
organs, musical merchandise, and sheet music in
the United States, is Lyon & Healy, of Chicago.
Mr. Lyon has been identified with the best in-
terests of the trade for many years, and his views
are valuable to trade interests throughout the
country.
Daring a conversation with our representative
recently, he stated that the business of the firm
has, during the past three months, been ten per
cent, greater than during the same period last
year.
"The sales of Stein way pianos has increased
largely daring the same time over the similar
period in 1881," continued Mr. Lyon. "We also
Week Ending June 7.
find that uprights are supplying the place of or-
gans in many instances with us; that is, with our
Exports.
especial trade. All through the West, out to the
U. S. Colombia, 3 Miscellaneous Mus. lusts.
Pacific coast, business has been excellent."
"
"
1 Piano
"How is it in small goods?"
Venezuela, 1 Piano.
"It never has been better."
6 Piano Materials
"What is your proportion between sales of Hamburg,
"
5 Sounding Boards
squares and of uprights?"
British East Indies, 1 Organ
"Well, about forty uprights to one square; it is Liverpool, 1 Piano
nearly all uprights and grands now. During my
"
6 Organs
visit this time to the East, I shall buy from Stein- Avonmouth Dock, 1 Organ
way alone sixty uprights and five grands, and—no London, 1 Organ
squares. This, with my present stock, will last Glasgow, 7 Organs
until August, when I will make my Fall purchases. Brit. N. Am. Colonies, 5 Pianos
I select all my pianos personally, this being one of Porto Rico, 1 Piano
Genoa, 1 Piano
my business principles."
Poss. in Africa, 6 Organs
"What opinion have you about trade this Sum- Brit.
"
" in Australasia, 9 Organs
mer and Fall?"
Mexico, 16 Pianos
"If the general trade remains good, and the
people get down to work—that is, the strike
Total
ceasea—my impression is that the trade this Fall
Imports.
will be good. Crops are in splendid condition in
Minnesota, Iowa, Dakota, and the adjacent region.
And let me state here, that farmers will hereafter 206 Miscellaneous Musical Instruments
purchase really good instruments. Their daugh-
Week ending June 14.
ters have been East, and in the music schools, and
with good teachers in Chicago, and when they re-
Exp jrts.
turn home they will want good pianos—in fact,
Hamburg,
3
Pianos
this is now the case. They are tired of the stencil
"
2 Organs
or humbug pianos, and look upon the piano ped-
26 Organs
ler in the country with considerable caution. A Bremen,
19 Organs
great many of these stenciled pianos have been Rotterdam,
5 Organs
put into the houses of Western farmers, and now London,
West Indies, 6 Organs
that they have become worthless as musical in- British
Liverpool, 10 Organs
struments, the farmer asks who made this piano?
"
1 Piano
CITY.
"Rock of Ages." (Dr. Thomas Hastings.) Trans-
cription. For piano. By A. E. Warren. Price, 50
cents.
$ 336
300
393
THE STRIKE IN ALBANY, N. Y.
195
575
EDWABD M'OAMMON.
153
A representative of THE MUSICAL CRITIC AND
500
600 TRADE REVIEW was informed that the strike at
175 Edward MoCammon's factory ended on June 12,
100 after having lasted seven weeks.
580
"We were short of goods, as a consequence of
840 the strike, and new orders were rapidly accumu-
250 lating, and I thought best to come to the ar-
450 rangement suggested by the committee," said Mr.
430 McCammon; "for on my part I had nothing to say
450
5,235 to them. The Albany committee accepted all the
$11,562
$25,434
$1,125
138
1,200
1,180
250
325
630
400
points suggested, and such of my points as they
were not empowered to accept, they had to submit
to the committee of the Piano Makers' Union in
New York. The president and another official of
the Union came on from New York, and soon had
matters arranged."
"Were there any special conditions which made
a difference, compared to the conditions prior to
the strike?"
"The majority of the men went to work without
any advance at all; a few got five and some ten
per cent, advance. They all said they had enough
of the strike, and didn't want any more."
"What do you think of trade?"
"There is every indication that we will be busy
during July and August, as orders are constantly
coming in."
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