Presto

Issue: 1924 1965

Presto Buyers' Guide
Analyzes and Classifies
All American P i a n o s
and in Detail Tells of
Their Makers.
PRESTO
E.tabli.hed 1884. THE AMERICAN MUSIC TRADE WEEKLY
Presto Trade Lists
Three Uniform B o o k -
lets, the Only Complete
Directories of the Music
Industries.
JO Cent,; tt.00 a Year
CHICAGO, SATURDAY, MARCH 22, 1924
DEALERS SEEM TO
WANT EXHIBITS
While, According to the Convention Directors,
the Piano Manufacturers Are Unfavorable
to the Displays at the Annual Meetings
Retailers Vote to the Contrary.
PROMINENT DEALERS' VIEWS
In Answer to Presto's Suggestion on the Subject, the
Proportion of "Ayes" to the "Nays" Is
as Ten to One.
The subject of exhibits at the conventions is stir-
ring considerable interest. On general principles it
must seem that the manufacturers are the ones to de-
cide the question. If all the manufacturers were
members of the association the matter would be easy
to settle by the dictum of the organization president
and the convention managers. But inasmuch as there
are "outsiders" in considerable numbers it seems im-
possible to pass a rule shutting out displays. It is, in
fact, easily possible for non-members to make their
exhibits, to the greater or less disadvantage of con-
tributing, active members, in whose interest the meet-
ings are held.
While this paper does not assume to secure a poll
of the trade in the matter, it is certain that whatever
plan may bring the largest attendance and help to
swell the membership of the piano merchants' asso-
ciation must be the best for the annual meetings. So
far as Presto's request for the opinion of its readers
goes, the proportion of retail piano dealers in favor
of displays is as about 10 to 1 in favor of them.
For and Against.
The negative side of the question, while represent-
ing only a small proportion of those who responded,
include some very prominent dealers, large and small,
such as E. H. Droop, of Washington; L. S. Parsons,
of Waterloo, Iowa: Fred Leithold, of LaCrosse, Wis.,
and others.
In the affirmative were such houses as those of
Parks, Hannibal, Mo.; Yates, Roanoke, Ala.; Beasley,
Texarkana; Jacobs, Ft. Wayne; Forbes, Birmingham;
Bates, Greeley, Colo.; Kramer, Allentown, and others
of similar activity. And among the communications
of some length from prominent piano men who tell
why they believe in displays at the conventions, the
following are good samples:
Col. Hollenberg's View.
Little Rock, Ark., March 7, 1924.
Editor Presto: I do not think there is any doubt
the exhibit of pianos, whether under one roof or
scattered, detracts from the work of the convention.
That very fact proves that the exhibit of pianos is of
great interest. Were it not so it would not detract
from the work of the convention or the attendance at
the meetings.
The ideal situation in my mind is that any display
of pianos should be held at the same place where the
convention is held, but that for the two days of the
convention it should be not only the understanding
hut should be made a fact that no pianos would be
exhibited or shown during those two days. Before
and after those two days the exhibit could be scat-
tered, or under* one roof, as the manufacturers pre-
ferred. I take it the exhibit of the pianos is the man-
ufacturers' proposition entirely, and therefore they
naturally have the right to exhibit them under one
roof, in one big display room, or in any manner they
see fit. But it is absolutely certain that the piano
dealers will visit those exhibits, for the simple reason
that it is the most interesting thing they have to deal
with.
To say that no pianos should be exhibited where
there are large gatherings, as a matter of fact several
hundred dealers present, is an absurdity in theory
and in fact. The most important thing in the minds
of the piano manufacturers is to meet with and talk
with and sell to dealers who are able to meet their
obligations. The most important thing in a piano
dealer's mind, and in his activities, is his ability to
examine, select and purchase that which he thinks
it is advisable for him to display in his territory.
That is the reason it is the absurd thing to pro-
hibit displays. It is absurd to think it possible for
manufacturers and dealers, in small numbers or large
numbers, meeting together at any time and any place,
without the subject matter of inspecting, selling and
buying pianos not to be uppermost in the minds of
TRADE PAPER TALKS
3—HIGH-BROW APPEALS TO THE "IN-
TELLECTUALS" VS. USEFUL SUG-
GESTIONS TO THE DEALERS.
There is a sort of false-pretense trade "jour-
nalism" which may be well calculated to mis-
lead investors in high-class advertising. It
presents itself in the kind of articles published.
It is manifested in "padding" the trade paper
with dry and irrelevant articles, bearing names
of public men, politicians, congressmen or gov-
ernment officials, who know little of specific
nature concerning the business, and who per-
mit the use of their names from the viewpoint
of self-aggrandizement.
The only purpose of such "padding" in a
trade paper is obvious to any man who stops
to think. It is solely to impress advertisers
with the "importance" of the trade paper itself.
It has no bearing upon the business of the ad-
vertisers, except possibly to divert interest
from the very purposes of the advertising
pages.
It is the cheapest kind of trade paper "bunk."
No business man of sense will applaud it, when
he knows how hard it is for him to snatch time
for perusal of the daily newspapers, in which
he can find the same kind of political "bull"
tucked away in some obscure corner. He
smiles derisively when he finds the same kind
of personal glorification, bearing the same poli-
tician's name displayed, with portrait, on the
first page of the trade paper.
That is not "trade paper stuff" at all. It
has no interest at all to the piano dealer, who
wants a trade paper for the direct help it may
be in his little—or big—business.
Any music trade paper that claims a circula-
tion, and prints that kind of false alarm stuff,
stands convicted of a contemptible species of
fraud.
Presto makes its appeal to the man who
makes his living by selling the things of music.
It is not a scientific publication. It is not a
"funny" paper. It is not trying to bind to-
gether as much waste paper every week as
possible. It is just "the American Music
Trade Weekly," and it is read carefully by a
larger number of the small piano dealers than
any other paper in its field.
If there is any to dispute this claim we will
ask him, her or it to step forward and have a
clean comparison of what we have both got.
Other proof equally convincing will be pre-
sented for several weeks to come.
both manufacturers and dealers. And it does not
finally make much difference what kind of rules and
regulations are put into effect, the necessity of the
situation will require visits to piano exhibits, or in-
spection, and will result in sales and purchases.
In my opinion this should be recognized and
adopted as a policy, because it gives, finally, the
greatest good to the greatest number, and there are
many other reasons in favor of this than the ideas
above stated, but it is unnecessary to mention them
at this time.
If my opinion is correct, then pianos and all com-
ponent parts should be exhibited at the places where
the convention is held and to avoid non-attendance
at the meetings the r displays of pianos should be
closed during the tw o days.
Yours very truly,
HOLLENBERG MUSIC COMPANY.
F. B. Hollenberg, President.
E. E. Forbes' Opinion.
Birmingham, Ala., March 7, 1924.
Editor Presto: I am in favor of display. I think
it makes it more attractive. Both the dealer and
the manufacturer are able to show their goods to the
people who visit there. It costs money for the deal-
ers to visit these conventions, and the display helps
to stir up interest in the musical industries.
I think the displays should be shown at a certain
hour, and the members forced to attend the business
sessions and other meetings of the convention.
1 am a member of the Furniture Dealers' Associa-
tion of our city, and I am enclosing a letter that 1
got from that organization. I am sure they find it
very profitable or they would not go to all this ex-
pense of putting up this building. 1 think the musical
industries could do the same thing, and make it
profitable.
I am enclosing you a check for $2, which pays also
for a Buyers' Guide, and shall appreciate it if you
will forward to us.
Yours respectfully,
E. E. FORBES.
Mr. Gressett's Plan.
Meridian, Miss., March 14, 1924.
Editor Presto: While it is of course of interest for
the visiting dealers to be able to see the new things,
the writer, who has attended some of the conventions,
notably the last one where displays were made, found
that the sessions of the convention were very poorly
attended on account of the time of the dealers being
taken up during convention hours in visiting the dis-
plays.
Once you get into the hands of the exhibitor, it's
hard to pull away. If these displays were so arranged
as to be closed during the sessions of the convention,
making this obligatory on the exhibitors, the two
could be worked very nicely together.
Yours very truly,
T H E A. GRESSETT MUSIC HOUSE.
J. B. Gressett.
Thinks Dealers Pay.
Sioux City, Iowa, March 11, 1924.
Editor Presto: It would seem to me that the
added expense incurred by the manufacturer in dis-
playing goods at conventions must be paid, in the end,
by the dealer. Pianos are too high, in my opinion.
Any movement that will tend to lower wholesale
prices should have the support of every dealer in the
country.
Enclosed please find check for $2 to cover sub-
scription to the Presto for one year.
Yours respectfully,
HARROD M. JONES.
Must Draw the Dealers.
Of course the only concern Presto can have in the
matter is to help fill the trade with the interest and
enthusiasm by which big things may be done. Un-
less the dealers are interested, there can be no large
gatherings. Anything that may help to create the
drawing interest must be what is wanted. Even if
the dealers who go to the convention cities do not
attend the business meetings regularly, they will be
there part of the time, and if interested they will
come again.
Certainly there have not been enough of the small
dealers in attendance at the conventions. There
should be fully twice as many in New York next June
as there were in the same city two years ago.
Some Will Exhibit.
There will be exhibits, whether or no. At Detroit
years ago, when the most stringent rules were en-
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PRESTO
SALES MANAGERS'
ROUND TABLE TALKS
Three Heads of Retail Departments Discuss
Phase of the Selling Problem Which
Largely Involves the Piano Salesman
Himself and His Methods.
POST=ARMISTICE KINDS
One Manager Presents Gloomy Portrait of the Appli-
cant for a "Job" Which He Frankly Concedes
Will Not Anchor Him.
March 22, 1924.
that selling is advertising in its best form. I am
careful to explain to them that our pianos do not
'speak for themselves.' They have not the asset of
a really great name. Nevertheless we sell them on
their merits and the new salesman is told how to talk
for them, representing them as they really are. The Famous Piano Again a Prominent Feature at Inter-
goods are sold along these lines and the thought inti-
esting Function in the East Room.
mated is that between the house and the customer
The Lenten matinee musicales for this season were
privileges are mutual.
inaugurated at the White House last week by Mrs.
The Trade Fallacies.
Coolidge. The first of the series was given in the
"In meeting applicants for jobs in the retail sales East Room before upwards of 500 guests. The
Steinway piano was used and a program arranged by
staff it is amazing to learn how many fallacies exist
Henry Jiuige, of Steinway & Sons, was carried out.
in the minds about the piano business. One is that
Another program was prepared by Mr. Junge for the
there are two seasons in the piano business when
second of the series held on Monday of this week.
sales are pretty lively and intervening periods when
the jolly old dolce far niente obtains. The idea is The third will be on Monday of next week at which
Miss Greta Torpadie, soprano, and Carlos Salzcdo,
fixed that an obligation, rigid as a federal law, pre-
harpist, will be the soloists.
vents piano prospects from piano prospecting and
Diplomatic and musical circles have always been
piano salesmen irom alluring the customer. I believe
interested in the White House musicales made fea-
the off season intrigues the job hunters. A thinking
tures of the social life of the capital during successive
part with pay for long periods of the year sounds
administrations. The Steinway piano has always been
good.
used at the functions and a prominent official of the
"But a different kind of young man in the post-
armistice applicants comes in looking for a 'position.' art division of Steinway & Sons has invariably ar-
ranged the programs.
The choice of the word is to me an indication of
character and suggests solidity, stability and self-
The annex store of Klein Bros, 20th and Canal
reliance and a true conception of his abilities, the
streets, Chicago, is having record sales of a big line
ambition to arrive at a permanent place in a sales
of pianos. Among the big sellers are Cable-Nelson,
organization. That kind develops into a professional
Kreiter and Kimball players. They are the featuring
salesman, the kind that forms the competent and per-
lines.
manent sales staff that we poor sales managers strive
to organize."
STEINWAY & SONS AT
WHITE HOUSE MUSICALES
At luncheon one day this week three retail piano
department sales managers discussed the evergreen
topic of salesmen and salesmanship. They were con-
cerned of course only in piano salesmen and piano
salesmanship. Each had his viewpoints and it was
the difference between one and the others that made
the debatable questions.
The personality of the salesman was the biggest
factor in his selling successes, one manager contended.
He said that since the great war the young men are
less adaptable to conditions in the retail piano trade
than they were before the beginning of the great
conflict. They usua iy consider the chance to begin
at retail piano selling as a temporary job instead of
an opportunity. They have an "I'm willing to try
anything once," attitude that does not make for per-
manence in the new position.
How Propcrtions of Little Piano with the Big Tone
Another View.
Preserves Power of Personality.
While one of his luncheon companions agreed in
The power of personality in the school teacher is
the estimate of the salesman recruit common since the
close of the war, he voiced a kick against the views a topic well treated in a new booklet issued by the
and methods picked up by the young salesman in his Miessner Piano Co., Milwaukee. The booklet is par-
earlier experiences in piano stores. "For instance," ticularly directed to school superintendents and school
complained the second sales manager, "the new boards and the suitability of the Miessner piano, "The
youngster cannot realize that the character of per- Little Piano with the Big Tone," in schools is made
manence of a firmly established house should influ- dear. In showing how the use of the Miessner piano
preserves to the full the power of personality in the
ence his manner of making a sale. He is out to sell
teacher
this is said:
the customer without any regard to the best interests
"Every superintendent knows that the music teach-
of the house, but with considerable thought for his
er's greatest asset is the power of personality. This
own interests.
teaching force fails to function if the teacher's back
Advices Ignored.
is turned to the class while she attempts to direct the
"Notwithstanding tie fact that 1 impressed upon music. To sit at a full size piano and turn the head
constantly to watch the class is a mere makeshift that
one of the new kind of young men who was with me
for a brief period recently, that the character of the is both inconvenient and inefficient.
"The tall upright obviously was not designed for
house was based on the thought that the public is
not 'sold' by our salesmen, but that the public spends schools; it was built to stand with its back to the wall
its money with us, he did not properly apply the of a home. But conditions in the schoolroom are dif-
ferent. Here the teacher's personality is a valuable
thought.
asset. Forty children are looking forward to the in-
"'The leader in our piano line is made for the best
spiration that the music teacher can give them. Class
people, musically speaking, and in dealing with them
singing needs a leader imbued with enthusiasm. The
we wish to have our salesmen present our old attitude
songs need piano accompaniments to support their
that we provide a very desirable privilege to the most
changing rhythms.
appreciative class of piano customers. Without ex-
"With a Miessner the teacher can face the pupils
pressing it in so many words, we consistently convey
directly across the top of the instrument while play-
the thought to the piano prospect.
"When he encountered a very desirable prospect for ing. The teacher's personality has full play. The
children are inspired by her enthusiasm. The music
a grand l.e truculently voiced the thought in plain
lesson goes with a lilt and a swing. Tired minds and
words like a slogan, actually crowed it like a young
bodies are refreshed. New vitality is carried over to
gamecock and then wasted fully half an hour trying
the other subjects. The school routine is embued
to interest the prospect in a used grand, which, al-
though of honorable name, is not of our line. Any- with new life and new spirit."
way the customer was not the kind we would have
our salesmen try to interest in used pianos.
EMPLOYES ORGANIZE ORCHESTRA.
The Darrow Music Co., Denver, Colo., is among the
That Kind Hopeless. •
most active forces working to make a success of the
"'Later on he proved to be one who could not con-
forthcoming Music Week, which all the musical or-
ceive an ideal for a piano business. Xo matter how ganizations of the city are seriously backing. The
long he stayed all pianos would look alike to him.
music house has organized a ten-piece orchestra from
Pianos were 'sold' and the more profitable you made
among its own employes and the earnest performers
each incident, regardless of consequences, the greater
are preparing to take an active part in the interesting
the glory. Sales to him would always be occasions events of the Music Week. Under the baton of E.
for expediency not incidents in an opportunity. That
R. Mitchell, the Darrow Orchestra is showing won-
kind come to the sales manager without an ambitions u'erful results.
purpose and when one is quick'y let go he departs
without feeling any disappointment, lle'd get an-
BRANCH STORE OCCUPIED.
other job at something else."
Nace's
Music Stores, Inc., with music stores in
"That's all right for you, my friend, but with me,
Hanover, Pa, Gettysburg, Pa.; Hampstead, Md., and
whose piano does not 'sell itself,' the piano sales
Westminster, Mr., recently occupied new quarters on
methods and the requirements of the salesmen are
Baltimore street, Hanover, Pa. This store is com-
different," said the third sales manager, who had been
pletely equipped with new fixtures and new booths.
an interested listener to his companions. "My house,
Pianos and playerpianos, Edison and Victor phono-
as you know, is a great advertiser, but we realize that
graphs, a"nd a full and complete line of band and
the best advertisement is the satisfied customer.
stringed instruments are handled.
While newspaper advertising creates prospects, the
proper treatment of the prospects creates prestige.
KARL E. PHARES, MANAGER.
The Come-and-Go Kind.
Karl E. Phares, well known in music circles in
"I have a lot of experience with the come-and-go
Dayton, O., has been made the sa'es manager of the
young man who drifts in casually or in response to Anderson Piano Co. Mr. Phares has spent consider-
an ad to find a job. But 1 have been fortunate in
able time in New York at the laboratories and studios
finding some of the right material among the young- of the Aeolian Co., as well as at its factories, and is
sters. They are the kind that realize from the first
well qualified for his new position.
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TO THE SCHOOL TEACHER
WESER
Pianos and Players
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Great profit possibilities
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