Presto

Issue: 1923 1928

PRESTO
July 7, 1923
The
Dominant
Line
J.P.SEEBURG PIANO CO.
A full and complete
line of better coin
operated pianos and
orchestrions.
14 Styles
from the smallest to the largest
14 Styles
from the largest to the smallest
FROM ICE TO PIANO WAS
ROUTE OF E. E. FORBES
And Birmingham, Ala., Is Now Proud of the
Big Music Business He Has Es-
tablished.
Down in Alabama, Gov. Brandon never tires of
telling that it is a long way from the humble cot of
a Methodist circuit rider to the governor's mansion.
But nobody ever hears E. E. Forbes, the Birmingham
music dealer and head of the E. E. Forbes Music
Co., brag that it is a longer cry from peddling ice
to head of a $500,000 music business. Yet that's
E. E.'s jump.
Mr. Forbes is proud to be numbered among the
''old timers" of Birmingham, having come there when
a boy of 20 from a farm. He received his education
in Oxford, Ala., where he was born, and attended
Oxford College, of which Prof. John L. Dodson was
president.
Getting a job in Birmingham 35 years ago was n o .
"birthday party," according to one who tried it, and
after searching diligently for some time,. Earnest
accepted one driving an ice-wagon. He stuck with
his wagon and mule for two weeks and then obtained
a position as piano salesman for Gilbert Carter. The
fact that after 35 years he is still selling pianos and is
now the head of his own company ought to convince
one that he made good at practically his first job
and liked the profession, which, one might say, was
thrust upon him.
After working for Mr. Carter for eighteen months
Ernest was located at Anniston, a partner with his
employer. Later this partnership was dissolved and
Mr. Forbes went into the piano business for himself,
locating in Anniston. After a time, Mr. Forbes
moved to Montgomery, where he opened a business
and where also occurred what he declares was the
most important event in his career. He was mar-
ried to Miss Mary V. Mallory. Later, he moved to
Birmingham where he has been in business under
the name of E. E. Forbes Piano Company. It is lo-
cated now at 1922 Third Avenue. He handles pianos,
playerpianos, reproducing pianos, phonographs, or-
gans, records and rolls.
Mr. Forbes started with very little capital, but has
worked up until he now heads one of the largest
music firms in the South. Both retail and wholesale
trade are handled. One year this company did more
than $1,000,000 of business. Mr. Forbes has associ-
ated with him in his business two sons, E. E. Forbes,
Jr., and James Mallory. They incorporated July 1
with a capital of $500,000.
Mr. and Mrs. Forbes have five children, Besides
the sons associated with him in business, there are
two other sons, Kenneth. and Herman, and one
daughter, Jeanette, all of whom are in school.
PROPOSES BOND ISSUE TO
SAVE BELL BROS. PIANO CO.
Sold on a protected
territory system that
will interest you.
Write for Details
speculative tendencies; only a small proportion of our
imports are not finished products—most of the im-
ports are raw materials or semi-finished products
needed for our own industries.
"As to the business situation as a whole," continues
Mr. Tregoe, "we have a very interesting exposition of
it from a canvass made at our convention in Atlanta
in the several trade groups. There were fourteen
groups in all, comprising the active commodities of
our domestic commerce, and as a unit the groups re-
ported improved sales and collections in May as com-
pared with April and excellent prospects for business
in the next three months.
"Some of the significant facts brought out in the
canvass were that the agricultural houses reported
better collections and larger sales as compared with
last year. This is an index of an increased buying of
the farmer. In construction industry lines, such as
iron and steel, hardware, electrical, etc., they reported
marked increases in collections and sales for May,
though the high and mounting prices made this group
a little less optimistic than other groups as to the
future."
THREE GULBRANSEN POINTS
MADE CLEAR TO READERS
Set Forth in Clever and Attractive Page Ad in Na-
tional Magazine.
These points are presented to prospective player-
piano buyers in a characteristically attractive page
advertisement for the Gulbransen in the Saturday
Evening Post: "First, the Gulbransen is easy to
play; second, you do the playing, you are in as close
contact with the music being produced as is the musi-
cian who plays any instrument; third, it is the only
playerpiano with Instruction Rolls.
Readers are asked to compare the .Gulbransen
"with hand-playing that you ordinarily hear." The
convincing text goes on to say:
"It is no exaggeration to say that Gulbransen play-
ing is infinitely superior, more expressive, more artis-
tic. Compare the best Gulbransen playing with the
best hand-playing. They are indistinguishable.
"These are broad statements, but facts. They are
important because they point the way for you to
play good music, with your own individuality and
expression, but without long study and tedious fin-
ger-work."
The page was embellished with a picture of an in-
terior with the Gulbransen as central object around
which happy family life proceeded.
SOUTH BEND, IND., FIRM
MOVES TO NEW QUARTERS
The Lang Bros., Active Piano Distributors, Hold
Formal Opening in Spacious Store.
Lang Bros., the South Bend, Ind., dealers, moved
last week from 114 East Wayne street to 439 South
Michigan street, where attractive warerooms have
been leased. The firm is one of the most progressive
Proposal to Issue 7 Per Cent Gold Bonds Made by in that section and one of the most successful dis-
tributors of pianos, playerpianos and talking ma-
Muncie, Ind., Company.
chines.
A letter sent' recently to creditors of the Bell
The new quarters have been remodeled to suit the
Brothers Piano Co., Muncie, Ind., mentions plans for purposes of this active company, and a businesslike
the reorganization of the company. The company is appearance is evident on every floor. The main dis-
manufacturer of pianos and playerpianos, with fac- play room is on the first floor, where the piano and
tory and offices in that city. The proposition is to playerpiano departments are located. The talking
issue 7 per cent ten-year gold bonds in $50 denomina- machine display is also on this floor and a suite of
tions provided a total of $50,000 can be subscribed well ventilated booths adds to the customers' pleas-
within a few days.
ure in shopping and the salesmen's ease in making
This sum is necessary to save the property from sales. Considerable taste has been displayed in the
being sold at auction by the People's Trust Co., of decorating and furnishing of all the departments.
Muncie, which is receiver for the company. The
letter explains that the bond issue carries with it a
PREMIER GRAND IN RECITAL.
bonus of fifty per cent its value in common stock of
the Bell Brothers Piano Co. to be given to sub-
At the piano recital 'held recently by the pupils of
scribers of the bonds.
Jascha G. Samoos, assisted by Mrs. A. Renikoff,
violinist, and G. Katilansky, baritone, at Mr. Samoos'
Studio, 357 West 118th street, New York City, the
Premier Baby Grand piano was used. Mr. Samoos
is a noted Russian pianist, is a graduate of the St.
Petersburg conservatory. A Russian night will be
featured in a W D T radio program in the near fu-
ture, at the W D T Broadcasting Station at the Pre-
J. H. Tregoe, in July Letter, Declares No Germ of
mier Grand Piano Corporation, 510-532 West 23d
Inflation Has Entered.
street, New York, operated by the Ship Owners'
"Credit continues to be sound. No germ of infla- Radio Service, Inc. Mr. Samoos is now arranging
tion has yet entered the credit system, and it is there- for the features of this Russian night program.
fore impossible to have disorders or depressions based
on anything but states of mind and unwarranted
SECURES FINE LINE.
fear."
These are the views of J. H. Tregoe, executive
W. W. Hinshaw, who recently bought the Univer-
manager of the National Association of Credit Men, sity Music Shop in Ann Arbor, Mich., has given the
expressed in his July letter. The recent failure of a agency for the entire line of the United Piano
number of brokerage houses and the excess of visible Corporation, New York, including the A. B. Chase,
imports over exports are facts that should be care- Lindeman & Sons and Emerson pianos and the Celco
fully considered, says this observer. The brokerage Reproducing Medium. Mr. Hinshaw is well known
failures represent nothing more than a reaction from as a vocalist in the concert field.
CREDIT CONTINUES SOUND
SAYS HEAD OF CREDIT MEN
J.P.SEEBURG PIANO CO
1510 Dayton Street
CHICAGO
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PRESTO
THE AMERICAN MUSIC TRADE WEEKLY
Published Every Saturday at 407 South Dearborn
Street, Old Colony Building, Chicago, 111.
C. A. D A N I E L L and F R A N K D. ABBOTT
Editors
Telephones. Local and Long Distance, Harrison 234.
Private Phones to all Departments. Cable Address (Com-
mercial Cable Co.'s Code), " P R E S T O , " Chicago.
Entered as second-class matter Jan. 29, 1896. at the
Post Office, Chicago, Illinois, under Act of March 3, 1879.
Subscription, $2 a year; 6 months, $1; Foreign, $4.
Payable in advance. No extra charge in United States
•possessions, Cuba and Mexico. Rates for advertising on
application.
Items of news and other matter are solicited and if
of general interest to the music trade will be paid for
at space rates. Usually piano merchants or salesmen
in the smaller cit'es are the best occasional corre-
spondents, and their assistance is invited.
Forms c'cse at nocn every Thursday. News mat-
ter should be in not later than eleven o'clock on the
same day. Advertising copy should be in hand before
Tuesday, five p. m., to insure preferred position. Full
page dsplay copy should be in hand by Monday noon
preceding ; publics t"cn day. Want advs. for current
week, to nsure classification, must not be later than
Wednesday noon.
Address all communications for the editorial or business
departments to PRESTO PUBLISHING CO., 407 So.
Dearborn Street, Chicago, III.
SATURDAY, JULY 7, 1923.
PROFITLESS GRANDS
i The race for the grand prix of Worse-Than-
Nothing" is on in grand pianos. The exciting
contest to prove that, after all, the finest at-
tainment of the keyed instrument is of small
value has reached the bursting point.
During the past week a dozen copies of a
$325 advertisement of a grand piano have been
sent to this paper by indignant retail dealers.
Some of the newspaper clippings have come
anonymously and others have been accom-
panied by lou:l protests and carminative com-
ment. As if a trade paper could do anything
in such a case!
It has been popularly supposed that if any
musical instrument represents value and com-
mands the respect of music lovers and is the
pride of the piano manufacturers, it must be
the grand piano. It is the instrument that
suggests the best that can be done in its de-
partment of constructive artisanry—the cli-
max of the expert acoustician's skill and the
arena of the highest exploits of phenomenal
pianism. And what becomes of the ideals
when big black type tells the astonished world
that such an instrument can be bought at
retail for $325?
Of course, to the person posted in pianos
the announcement doesn't mean much—unless
he happens to be a dealer in pianos. In that
case it means that new invasion of the garden
of ideals has come, with threat of damage to
the best fruit that grows there.
If a grand piano is advertised at so low a
price by a retail piano house, the significance
may not be harmful. No one can know the
reason. But if a manufacturer does it, the
only conclusion is that the cheapest methods
of construction are applied to insure the small-
est wholesale profit. It is merely going aroun:l
the retail trade and reaching the public direct.
The advertiser can not expect that any re-
tailer will buy the same instruments to sell
again under any name. To try to retail at
such a manufacturer's price would be to play
into competitors' hands and do business with-
out profit.
To try to sell any other grands from the
same manufacturer, at better prices, would be
waste of effort because competing salesmen
would point to the advertised retail price and
easily convince any prospects that the instru-
ment could only be the same piano, under a
different name, and at a higher price.
No piano dealer can afford to buy grand
pianos to retail at $325. If the same manu-
facturer also produces other grands at better
prices, the cheap instrument reflects its char-
acter upon the better one and makes it a hard
proposition, for it is a common understanding
that no really fine pianos can issue from the
factory that produces the cheapest in the
world.
The manufacturing retailer who advertises
a grand piano to retail for less than a good
upright can be sold for, can not expect that
the dealers will be interested to the extent of
killing their business by reducing the possi-
bilities of profit to the vanishing point. There
must be a price limit somewhere, and in grands
it seems to have been reached. However—
mebbe not!
FIRST TRADE PAPER
In his recent discussion of advertising Mr.
Chas. E. Byrne ran back into early times for
illustrations of the first great advertisers, of
whom Mother Eve was the original—as she
is said to have been of all of us—and carried
on down to the days of King Tut and P. T.
Barnum. But Mr. Byrne did not tell us of
the first trade paper which, according to re-
port, was put forth by Noah to announce the
sailing of the widely advertised Ark line. Noah
was the first of the Archaic advertisers.
A late edition of a music trade paper, how-
ever, does try to tell of the first music trade
paper, and goes too far back even if not quite
as far as Noah. There was no need of music
trade papers in the time discussed by Mr.
Byrne, but a music trade paper of last week,
which is certainly old enough, gave itself
credit for too much age. It said that it was
"founded and is still being edited by John C.
Ereund, who started the first music trade
paper as far back as 1872." We repeat, that
is too far back.
Mr. Freuncl has the distinction of having
smarted the first music trade paper in this
young country of ours. There were music
trade papers abroad and Mr. Freund really
put forth the first American music trade
paper under date of November 18, 1875. The
publication was called the "Music Trade Re-
view" and its initiative was due to the enter-
prise of the late Mr. William Steinway. Prior
to that time Mr. Freund had been conducting
a very beautiful publication known as the
"Arcadian."
This is said merely for the sake of accuracy
in a matter of some importance to all literary
bgend. The mistake on Mr. Freund's part
was doubtless due to haste and he will thank
us for setting him right.
The first "Music Trade Review" was a fort-
nightly with a very beautiful title page by Jas.
C. Beard, a famous artist of that period.
DELAYED HONEYMOON TRIP.
C H. J. Thorby, vice-president of the Straube
Piano Company. Hammond, Ind., last Saturday
started en a cruise of Lake Michigan, in company
v. ith Mrs. Thorby and some of their friends. The
rrrise is being made in Mr. Thorby's own yacht.
"Comiiiodo r e," as Mr. Thorby is known by most of
his friends by virtre of his official connection with
the Jackson Park Yacht Club, of Chicago, and Mrs.
Thorby have been married but two months, and the
trip is a sort of delayed honeymoon cruise.
July 7, 1923
TIME'S CHANGES IN
GRAND PIANO STYLES
The Progress of the Packard Is Basis of an
Interesting Review of the Industry
Since 1871.
One of the most notable retail trade enterprises of
recent date was tliat of the Guest Piano Co., of Bur-
lington, Iowa, in securing a full section of the Daily
Hawkeye for purposes of a review of the history of
that house. Among other interesting articles was the
following concerning the Packard piano, which is a
leader in the Burlington house:
Every visitor to the Guest Piano Co. will see a
Packard grand piano occupying an honored place in
the richest collection of musical instruments in the
West.
This Packard piano is produced by the Packard
Piano Co., of Fort Wayne, Ind., manufacturers of a
full line of reproducing pianos, grands, uprights and
players. It is a reliable and distinguished house
whose energy and progressive enterprise have con-
tributed not only to the western industry, but to the
fame of the American musical instrument through-
out the world.
The reputation of this old and substantial concern
for fair and honorable dealing is beyond reproach.
The output of the Packard factory is not on the quan-
tity basis, emphasis being placed on the quality.
The purchase of a piano in the early days of the
Packard history was an event in the life of most
American families. The idea of buying such an in-
strument was discussed for months—and when a pur-
chase was made, the piano was the most prized
possession.
The present-day purchaser of a Packard, however,
can little picture the first Packard grand piano which
was made. For styles change in grand pianos as
they do in clothing, shoes and other things. The
early grands were built as if they were to sustain a
three or four story building. The legs were a foot
thick and fancy carving gave them a not unpleasant
apeparancc. These fancy carved bodies had to give
way as the public taste changed.
The present-day grand is a beautiful instrument,
possessing the tene which is the development of years
of the best effort in piano construction The Pack-
ard players, uprights and reproducing pianos are as
far famed as its grand piano.
Possessing quality
that is unquestioned, the Guest Piano Co. has given
the Packard instrument honored places on its floors.
PLEASANT TIME PROPOSED
AT PIANO CLUB LUNCHEON
No Speak'ng on Program, But Walter A. Lund Will
Provide Good Singing.
For the luncheon of the Piano Club of Chicago
Monday, July 9, Walter A. Lund will be program
chairman of the day, and he has a tine summer pro-
gram. No speaking; just some good singing, perhaps
a story or two and adjournment promised on time.
The songs are to be given us by the members of
the firm of Egbert Van Alstyne & Company, '"than
whom there are no whomers when it comes to songs,"
says Mr. Lund.
Deep Stuff—A suggestion from the Secretary:
'"You've got to use your brains for something besides
a hat rack if you expect to horn in on the Deep
Stuff."
THE RAGTIME BARD.
When I was yorng, my muse and I
Tuned up my saxophone together.
Then went I forth beneath the sky—
A bashful bard for any weather.
With verse bound round end verse set free
I've cast my lot, and thus have taken
Short steps toward immortality
But 'tis my pigs bring home the bacon.
Poet of jazz! The synco field
Boasts none more brilliantly pro'.itic.
The weekly crop of rimes I yield
Is some sub'ime and same terrific.
Of matters anything save deep
I write with ease as with a mission,
But 'tis my speckled hens that keep
My double chin in good condition.
—The Hick in Chicago Herald and Exam'ner.
ALSO CARRIES ORGANS.
The Z. C. Hundley Mrsic Co., recently formed in
Enterprise Ala., carries a line of pianos and players,
trIking machines, ro Is, records and shest music and
in addition provides for the wants of the organ cus-
tcmer. In that section the favor for the reed organ
survives and is of sufficient importance to be catered
to in a regular way by an alert firm like the Z. C.
Hundley Music Co.
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