Play Meter

Issue: 1977 September - Vol 3 Num 17 (cover 13)

Mailbox ....
One of the largest assets we
distributors have is our service.
The service section in Play Meter
is one of the best I have
encountered in over 20 years in
the service business.
Continue the great job you are
doing in the area of service.
Jack Whitaker
Randy Sherwood Enterprises
San Antonio, Texas
You have a very fine publica-
tion. I feel, however, that one
added feature which would make
your magazine 100 percent would
be if you would publish the
manufacturers' retail prices on
new equipment and the wholesale
and retail prices on used equip-
ment.
The prices on equipment in this
area differ as much as $125 per
unit from distributors on new
machines. So it pays to shop
around.
Jack E. Champion
Action Music & Games
Kershain, South Carolina
[Publishing the manufacturer's
suggested retail price would be
quite useless because it is usually
$200-$300 higher than what oper-
ators normally pay for the
equipment. As a rule, distribu-
tors don't raise their prices above
the manufacturer's suggested
retail price, they undercut it.
The difference you noted (up to
$125 on a machine) probably
came about because one distribu-
tor cut more off the suggested
price than the others in his area.
As for a guide on used equip-
ment, Play Meter has found that
the DRA Price Guide, which is
published quarterly is fairly
reliable-Editor's Note.]
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After reading Robin Minnear's
article ("Atari's Breakout-A
Problem Solved") in your July
issue, it is apparent that some
qualifications are in order.
The static problem with 4016's
is not unique to Breakout, but
could occur in any system utiliz-
ing 4016's since they are not
internally protected.
If anyone chooses to "protect"
his 4016's the way Robin sug-
gests, I suppose the decision is
his own. However, it is much
cheaper and easier simply to
replace the 4016's with 4066's.
The 4066 is a CMOS QUAD
Bilatcoal switch that has internal
diode protection.
The above recommendation
was published by Atari in its Coin
Collection (Vol. #7, June 1977).
Fred McCord
Field Service Engineer
Atarl, Inc.
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September. 1977. PLA Y METER
Your articles in Play Meter for
February and March on building
the logic comparator were very
informative.
Philip Barney
Russell-Hall, Inc.
Holyoke, Massachusetts
Here's an idea for added
jukebox play. What if you had a
location that needed a little extra
promotion? Could someone come
up with a unit that would have a
plug-in card option? It would be a
timing circuit that would have a
jumper plug that, by moving it at
the operator's discretion, could
be changed from 15 to 45
minutes.
Bruce M. Michaud
Upstate Vending Service
Lake Placid, New York
[Sorry, but it's already been tried
and scrapped. That's the word
from WiUiam D. FindULy, service
manager for Rock-OI.a. He said
that some manufacturers tried
that many years ago but found
that it was very unprofitable-
Editor's Note.]
I enjoy reading Robin Min-
near's articles in Play Meter very
much.
I feel he gives us
down-to-earth information, not
jazzed up with a lot of B.S. His
seminars are also excellent.
Keep up the good work.
Frank Gallo
C&L Amusements Co.
VVilton,Connecticut
Your magazine is one of the
best in our industry. It would be
great if there were a blue sheet
for operators to sell games back
and forth to each other at a fair
value.
Robert M. Hawking
Fun Factory
Reno, Nevada
[That is one of the many
advantages of being a paid
subscriber to Play Meter. In our
Update issue, we publish our paid
subscribers' classified ads free of
charge. There's no better, and
cheaper, way for operators like
yourself to buy or seU used
games-Editor's Note.]
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PLA Y METER September 1977

I am new in the pinball game
business; and, though I have 20
years experience in electronics
with the FAA, I can't make heads
or tails of the schematics of pin
games. Help! I am servicing the
games now mostly by visual
inspection. What I need is some
good literature on how to service
and conduct preventive mainte-
nance.
Leon B. VViltsey, Jr.
Stick & Stein Pinball Palace
Key VV est, Florida
[We recommend that you keep on
the lookout for the next AMOA
regional mechanical school. One
of the things you learn there is
schematic reading which seems
to be your problem - Editor's
Note.]
Just a little curious about that
picture of Bally's Evel Knievel
on page 20 of the June issue. If
it's only made in solid state, how
come no digital score in the
picture?
R. Schiffer
Ocean Amusements
Pt. Pleasant, New Jersey
PRICES
PLUS fREE fREIGHT
Member
AMOA
I must take exception to Mr.
Nathan Bush's comments on
manufacturer seminars (J uly
1977, page 10).
Perhaps Mr. Bush, or even
better Play Meter, should talk to
the 2000 or 3000 operators that
have attended various Atari
seminars during t he past two
years. You will find that not only
are we able to teach pinball
mechanics to repair P .C. boards,
but more important, the majority
are able, willing, and eager to
learn. In defense of the operators
and mechanics, Mr. Bush's state-
ments are apparently not based
on personal experience.
Fred McCord
Field Service
Atari, Inc.
Member
NAMA
[You've got a sharp eye. Ac-
cording to Tom Niemann at BaUy,
the picture in Play Meter was a
prototype of the Evel Knievel
An extremely smaU
game.
number of electro-mechanical
prototypes were produced for
testing reasons before BaUy went
into production with its solid
state model-Editor's Note.]
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