Play Meter

Issue: 1976 July - Vol 2 Num 7

for a show in the mall to start and they'll come in to
playa quick game of pinball or foosball or pool.
PLA Y METER: How do the kids react to pricing
changes?
GETTLE: We've never changed our pins. We've
had occasion, however, to change or foosball in
some locations from 25 cents to 35 cents. It usually
doesn't present a problem if you'll change the
equipment when you change the price, but if you
take the same table and raise the price on it, you're
going to decrease the number of plays; you may not
decrease the total income on the table, but you'll
decrease the number of plays on it.
PLA Y METER: You do allow food and drink in
some locations and not in others.
GETTLE: We allow no food in any location. We do
allow Coke machines in most locations, but we allow
no outside drink to brought into any location .
PLAY METER: And again, smoking is allowed in
some locations and not in others.
GETTLE: Yes.
PLA Y METER: How is this determined?
GETTLE: Many times it's dertermined by the
lease. But it would be more properly determined by
the area we have to work with. If we have an area
that we can set aside for a smoking and b verage
area then we do that. We set that area a ide and
that is where the kids can take a break, have a
smoke, have a Coke. But there are no drinks or
smoking in the playing area.
PLAY METER: Are there any age limits imposed
on who can play your machines?
GETTLE: In the state of Kansas, there are no age
limits on who can play pinball, foosball or pool.
PLAY METER: Do you operate jukeboxes in your
fun centers?
GETTLE: We do not operate jukeboxes in any of
our locations.
PLAY METER: Why not?
GETILE: We don't think it's necessary. If a kid
comes in with $2.00 or $5.00 to spend, he's going to
put it in your machines. If one of your machines is a
jukebox, he'll put part of it in t here. But, if you
provide music, he's still going to put the $2.00 or
$5.00 in your other machines. So it's just one more
machine to divide t he total income by. And it's a
maintenance problem and an expense problem, an
unncecessary expense problem.
CARSON: There's one more thing. If you take one
of our fun centers and turn off the music there, the
music we have playing full -time, and you have
maybe only one person in there, the place is dead.
That's what happens with a jukebox. II kids aren't
putting money in it, there's no noise. I think our
theory has always been that we want music, we
want noise any time anybody goes in there, any
time of the day. Activity creates activity. There
may be no movement but the noise i there and it
create activity. It's omething that we offer free.
GETILE: Music is part of the decoration just as is
the carpet and the lights.
PLAY METER: You don't think then that a
jukebox might bring more girls into a fun center.
GETILE: If you have music that appeals to the
kids, it doesn't matter whether it froma jukebox or
you provide it, the kids like it. We did have, when
we first stated, jukeboxes in some of our locations,
and we had other locations without, and the kids
travelled between locations. Some kids feel almost
offended that they have to pay for music if they can
go somewhere else and get it free.
PLA Y METER: What do you think are the major
advantage of operating just fun centers? All your
machines are in fun centers, right? None or on
location?
GETTLE: None at the present time. And we don't
actively or even inactively go out and try to acquire
other locations. But if someone was to come in and
ask us to set up in what we considered a very good
location, we probably would. But we have not had
that happen. There are only so many hours in the
day, and we feel that we would like to do what
we're doing now and better than anyone else. So we
try to zero in on one area of the amusement
business--and that's fun centers--and do the best
job that we possibly can. Also, if it's good enough to
have 50 per cent of it, it's good enough to have 100
per cent of it.
PLA Y METER: How does the local political
structure view your operation?
GETTLE: Very well. We've been extremely careful
since we started to try to have good public relations
with city officials, especially the local police
department in any town that we operate in. We
co-operate with them fully. I think our situation' can
probably be t be de cribed by using as example a
fun center that we recently closed down. We were
asked a few days after it closed down if we would
'epopen it. The sheriff of the community asked us if
we would reopen. We told him that we had had a
lack of bu iness up there, but if the local residents
wanted us to, we would . We were then presented
with a petition to reopen the fun center.
Twenty-nine familie , husbands and wives, had
igned the petition a king us to reopen this fun
center and provide entertainment and adult
upervision for their kids.
PLAY METER: Where wa this?
GETTLE: Thi was in Park City, Kan., a town of
approximately 4,000 people that does not have a
wimming pool or any type of recreation other than
what we had provided for the children.
In addition, we have had one minor zoning
problem. We operate a fun center in Arkansas City,
Kan. We lea ed a 7-11 store thte thinking that it
being a retail location there would be no problem;
but ju t prior to opening, we found out, much to our
urprise, that in thi particular city fun centers
were zoned the ame as circuses. We had to have a
public hearing in front of the planning commission;
then we had to have a public hearing in front of the
council.
Th city council, by a 3-2 vote, gave us the right
to do bu iness for 90 day in a non-conforming
district. After 90 day , we had another hearing in
front of the council, and it took about one minute
before we had a unanimou vote to issue us a
permanent non -conforming use permit. Members of ]
the city council had conducted their own personal
inve tigations of our business and of our manager, ~
and they voted unanimously in our favor.
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Usually when you open up a brand new fun
center, many adults in the area will think there are
going to be problems. They feel that where a lot of
kids congregate, you're bound to have problems.
After it's shown to them that you're going to have
adult supervision, that you really provide for a need
of the community, they're happy to have you there
and in some cases, as in Park City, will do their
very best to keep you there.
PLAY METER: We understand that you have been
experiencing some difficulty getting into large,
en<;losed malls. What's the story here? Why is
there difficulty and what can be done to combat this
difficulty?
GETTLE The No. 1 thing that can be done to
combat the difficulty is hiring adult managers or
supervisors, not, even when business slows down,
trying to reduce the expense by hiring someone
who wiJl work for $2.30/ hour. In this business, like
any other business, you get what you pay for.
PLAY METER: Why is there difficulty getting into
these malls, though? Why aren't they begging you
to come in?
GETTLE: Most of the large regional malls are
owned by people who have a number of them, two,
three, five, maybe twenty of them. Most of these
have had some experience with a fun center or an
arcade in one of their malls. Many times,
unfortunately, it's been a bad experience. And the
only thing they have to go on is their past
experience. If they've had a bad experience in
Missouri or Ohio and we try to lease space
from them in Kansas, many times they won't even
talk to us.
PLAY METER: Do you think this can be changed?
GETTLE: I think that through the efforts of
everybody in the industry it can be changed . People
that go into a mall to put in a recreation center have
a very large investment, and yet they will hire a
$100 or $125/ week man to run their business. I
think that's a mistake.
PLAY METER: How long is it going to take before
fun centers are universally accepted in en,closed
malls?
GETTLE: I think it will take a long time. I don't
think we'll ever be accepted as well as a chain of
restaurants or a chain of movie houses, but I do
think that through the efforts of everybody in the
industry, we can change our image a good deal.
PLA Y METER: Just by running the business
properly?
GETTLE: By running the business with adult
supervision and by paying the supervisors a salary
that's sufficient to get qualified help. By taking the
time that is necessary to interview, to screen, the
people so that you're sure getting someone that can
do the job. And just as important, if you find out
you have somebody that's not doing the job, by
taking immediate steps to replace him with
someone else, not letting the problem linger or
gtow into something where the only solution is
~ closing the center down.
• PLAY METER: Is there anything else you're doing
... that you feel is different?
~ GETTLE: One thing that we do that I don't think is
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real common in the industry among those that
operate fun centers or operate routes, is that we
have a retail outlet of our used pinball machines .
Being able to get a retail price for these by selling
them for home use enables us to replace our
machines more than the average operator would.
CARSON: Also, the home models actually help the
general busine s, I think. They take them home and
plkay them there, but it doesn't take away from our
business at the fun center. It only whets the
appetite to come back and try the machines we have
there. Because the atmosphere is still at the fun
center.
PLA Y METER: Have you sold a lot of pinball
machines to private homes?
GETTLE: We'll sell two or three a week, which
means 100 to 150 machines a year, and I think, as
time goes on our business will increase. But like
Dan says, it doesn't hurt your business in the fun
center. If the majority of homes had a pinball
machine , I don't think it would hurt our business
because t he people do go in for the atmosphere-that
we create. Kids go into a fun center for the other
kids.
PLA Y METER: Besides hard work and the hiring
of top-notch personnel, to what would you attribute
your rapid growth?
GETTLE: I think one of the things that has helped
is that I myself, the people in supervision,
everybody in our organization as a matter of fact,
have only been in the business a short time. So
we're not hindered, if that's the right word, by a set
way of doing business like somebody is that's been
in the business for 25 or 30 years and would rather
not try a change. We're a young organization--most
of the people in it are young--and we're more likely
to try new and different things. And trying new
and different things is what is going to make our
business continue to grow, is what is going to make
the industry continue to grow.
PLA Y METER: If you were starting this business
all over again, what sort of problems that you've
had would you be able to avoid and would you
advise the novice to avoid?
GETTLE: I wouldn't go into a mixed neighborhood.
I don't want of offend anybody, but this fun center
business I've found to be of such a nature that it
doesn't really do well in a mixed neighborhood . I
don't know that I would change anything other than
that. I feel very proud of what we've done and of
what we've accomplished and I say "we" because
it's been Dan and I and a lot of other good people ,
especially good managers, that's made it possible.
I would try even harder to get people that want
to grow with the business because it offers a
tremendous opportunity to grow. It's one of the few
businesses that I know of that when they say, "The
sky's the limit, " the terminology really applies. It's
a very small percentage of people in the United
States that play pinballs and arcade games,
and a we, as operators, help to educate people that
these are games of skill, that they are games of fUll-,
the sky indeed is the limit as to the business we'll be
able to do, as to the number of locations that we can
have and really as to the money, the profit we can
make in it--and that's what it's all about.

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