Music Trade Review

Issue: 1940 Vol. 99 N. 2

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teacher to recommend the sale of a thousand
dollar piano to someone whose income would
not permit more than a three or four hundred
dollar sale. However, if the teacher can boost
each sale from fifty to two hundred and fifty
dollars each I assure you that our net profit
at the end of the year will be much more
favorable and that we will be amply repaid by
any effort or financial remuneration that we
might have given the teaching profession.
"It is my feeling, gentlemen, that as we go
about our daily business if we would give a
little more thought to those allied with our
industry and to increasing the cultural and
educational facilities of the city, or community
in which we are doing business, that increased
piano sales would automatically take care of
themselves."
Second speaker of the afternoon session was
R. A. Huff, of the Huff Music Co., Bethlehem,
Pa., who talked on the subject of "Getting
Better Cooperation and Making Her a Better
Teacher." After stating that the attendance
of over 250 men manifested that we are enter-
ing a new era, he said:
"I think we are all very much pleased with
the progress we have made in the piano busi-
ness in the last couple of years. I know I
am, and I think the fact that there are 50
per cent more this year than there were at the
meeting last year is good reason for us to
believe that we are all very much interested
in the comeback of the piano.
"The thought has occurred to me that since
the piano is coming back, it might be a good
time for us to sort of clean house a little bit
and turn over a new leaf, probably eliminating
many evils, or as many as we can, that we
have had in the past.
"Touching on the subject now very lightly—
I do it with a bit of hesitation, but it is only
a viewpoint, and inasmuch as this is a forum,
you are all entitled to your opinion, as I feel
I a m —the first thought I have is on the evils
as we know them of the old piano men, the
evils that existed because of the commission
business with the teacher.
"Before I go any farther, I would like to
tell you my thoughts about that. I think that
any evils that did exist—and I think there
were plenty—were mostly of our own doing,
as dealers. I have met and known a lot of
teachers in my life and I think a great deal
of them, and I think, as a class, they are a
very fine, upright, honest group of artists, and
that is all. . . .
Regulation of Teacher's Commission
"In other words, if the commission business
was a racket, we are responsible for it. That
is the way I feel about it. I am just adding
a comment of my own, and it is meant only
as a comment as to how we should handle that
thing. I think we should eliminate commis-
sions to teachers, except where a teacher very
definitely has some part in the sale. I mean
if the teacher brings in a pupil, a parent or is
instrumental in helping in the sale of a piano,
he is performing the function of a salesman
and is very definitely entitled to some remu-
neration. I think none of us would object to
that. Just what the amount should be is, of
course, up to anybody's discretion.
"However, I do think that whatever he does
along those lines is worth something. But I
think we should discourage just the listing of
names or the giving of prospects with the
thought of getting something out of it. I think
as dealers we should not have anything to do
with that. . . .
"I think possibly the best way I could ex-
plain that would be that we make a friend of
the teacher, rather than a business accom-
plice.
"One way of cooperation is, if you have a
music department in your store, you naturally
are catering to the music teachers. I would
suggest that you take a personal interest in
that music department that hasn't been making
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money for you, and probably never will make
a whole lot, but it is a very necessary part
of your business if you have it, and can be
made a great traffic builder and a great form
of service for teachers, especially.
"I would suggest that you have in a music
department everything that a teacher would
need.
Serve Teachers in Music Department
"Music publishers are, generally speaking,
following the Fair Trade Act and doing bus-
iness on a much higher plane than they used
to. However, we still have some competition
from publishers direct, and it is up to us as
dealers, if we have a music department, to
give these teachers service. If they use a
certain type of book we should handle it, keep
it in stock for them so they can pick it up im-
mediately. I think the music department is a
very important thing, as it affects the service
that a teacher can get from you.
"Now another thought I have is that we
should cooperate by selling tickets to any
musical affair or any function that goes on
in the town or city in which we are located.
I think we should look into that, and if we
are not already doing it, we should make efforts
to make our services available for that thing.
Sell tickets, put cards in the windows, sup-
port everything that comes along in an ar-
tistic manner in your city, and every time
you do that, you make a friend. After all, that
is what you want.
List All Teachers in City
"I think another very important thing we
could do would be to make a list v and keep
it of all teachers in your city; that is, all the
good ones. I don't confine that only to piano.
I would suggest voice and all the instruments.
Very often you have sold a piano and had a
customer ask you, "Whom would you recom-
mend as a teacher?" Just how you handle
that, of course, is another thing that you should
do with gloves on, and speaking of this co-
operation which we are stressing, no doubt you
would cooperate with the teacher who coop-
erated with you. It is only natural that we
should lean towards our friends.
"But I would suggest that we keep a list
of teachers and be helpful.
"I think we can follow that a little farther
—call up the teacher and make an appoint-
ment for tht prospective pupil. After all, we
are only selling the piano. The teacher is
the one that has to make it live and speak in
the home. I think we have all had experience
of pianos that have been sold to customers
who found out several months or a year after-
wards that the money they spent for lessons
was not justified, and maybe that is the fault
of the teacher.
"Another thought I have, and I think this
is important, all teachers nowadays are strug-
gling along, barely making a living, and they
like to present their pupils in concert. Uus-
ally it is in the spring of the year. I think
that is an opportunity for us to really make
a friend of a teacher. They need a piano.
Very often these affairs are held in halls, small
auditoriums or homes even, where good in-
struments are not available, and in order to
present their pupils at their best they want
a good instrument, and that is where we come
in. They come to us for them. I think we
ought to do that gratis. It is a good bit of
experience and probably costs us a little money,
but if you want to make a friend of a teacher,
loan him a good piano and he will certainly
feel grateful. Or if we have to make a charge,
let's make it as nominal as possible.
"Now I have another thought, that we could
use our store for practice. This happened to
us because people have come to us and asked
for it, and we were very glad to do it. If
you want to get cooperation from a friend,
you prove yourself to be a friend to him!
Encourage Teachers' Organization
"Another thought I think would be helpful
is this: If your teachers, your professional
music teachers, do not have an organization, I
think you ought to encourage them to organize
one. We have such an organization in Bethle-
hem. We had nothing to do with it there.
They meet each Tuesday at luncheon, and this
group have grown to know each other and
have eliminated a lot of the petty jealousy
among each other.
"Now, along that line, I would like to give
you a thought I have had about this group of
music teachers and how they could help them-
selves, and, incidentally, help us a great deal.
I am frank to say I have tried to promote
this wth our local organization without any
success. I still think the idea is good, and I
am going to tell you fellows about it, and
maybe you will be able to use it. During the
summer months when all the professional music
teachers, or rather, the children, are home and
free, hold a sort of a music clinic. Advertise
through the papers, if necessary. The dealers
ought to help subsidize the cost of that. Ad-
ertise that they will listen to prospective pupils,
children whose parents are so minded to have
them learn a piano or some other instrument
or start singing lessons, but who are hesitat-
ing because of the cost of it. How many
times have you fellows talked to prospects in
your store who have said, "Well, I would like
to buy that piano and I would gladly if I was
sure Mary or John would take to it." I have
heard that so many times; in fact, that is
where I got the idea
"I thought if I could get this local group
of teachers to run a series of auditions, offer
their services gratis, take each child and give
him three or four hearings to see whether
he has any musical ability, whether he has
got a sense of rhythm, whether he has an in-
terest in music, they could make a report to
the parent and say, "Mary looks to me as
though she would make a good pianist or a
good violinist or a good wind instrument play-
er," or "Little Mary looks like a musical moron,
Mrs. Smith, and I think you would save money
by not giving her any lessons."
"I think if some such form as that could be
followed, it would certainly bring a lot of
pupils to the teachers and would certainly sell
a lot of pianos for us. As I say, that is only
an idea. It may not be new, I don't know,
but I have thought about it for some time,
and haven't been able to do a thing about it,
although I intend to keep on trying.
"Let's be.a friend to the teacher and not
a briber. I think, taking them as a class,
being artistic people, they will respond much
more quickly and be more loyal, better friends
and greater help to us, if we prove our friend-
ship to them by helping them wherever we
can. Heaven knows, they need it, and so do
we!"
Mr. McClanahan then introduced Ray Er-
landsen, General Manager of the retail stores
of Rudolph Wurlitzer Company, who spoke on
advantages and disadvantages of teaching mu-
sic in our schools, an address which was
printed in the November issue of THE MUSIC
TRADE REVIEW.
Mr. McClanahan then called on Ed-
win G. Weeks of Weeks & Dickinson,
who illustrated the value of instruction
on musical instruments in the following
manner:
Weeks Endorses Music School
"I can do little more than add my word of
approval to this last topic, "The School in
the Music Store." We have all been confronted
by the mother or father who said, "My boy,
Johnny, is crazy to have a saxophone. I find
that a saxophone costs $150. Will it not be a
risk for me to buy that instrument, with no
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present knowledge that the boy can master
the instrument?"
"I naturally have said, "Yes, you are taking
the chance, but of course, you realize also that
when you first had this boy, there is where you
took the big chance on everything."
"We are now able to say, and have been
for some years, "You don't take the chance.
We take the chance. We find out for you
through our school whether your boy has what
it takes to master this instrument."
"There has been on the part of the inde-
pendent teachers—and they are independent
or they would be on our staff, for we gave
every teacher in our town the opportunity to
say whether he or she would accept teacher-
hood. Of course, we couldn't get the best
teachers. Their time was filled, and we had
to ask the teachers to share with us in the
expense of this experiment. We have a daily
broadcast that we have been carrying on for
ten years, used largely in connection with our
school. We hold out the inducement to the "
boy or girl, and it is a real lure, that as soon
as he can give a creditable performance, he
will be allowed to broadcast.
"I was interested this morning in the talk
on advertising to see the development in broad-
costing, and so it is that we believe that our
show windows are our first best advertising
and our broadcasting is our second, and our
newspapers are third. I hope the newspaper
men won't necessarily quote me rather unfa-
vorably when I put them third. When you
broadcast, you are just talking to your pros-
pective customers, and you come to know them
when they say, "I was interested in what you
said over the air about So-and-so."
In addition to the publicity that has been
proved, I very strongly approve of broadcast-
ing over our local station. I believe that the
real music store today has ceased to be just
a music store. It has become an institution
of music. We have necessarily in that way
come to create the demand, and there is no
greater way of creating the demand than
through the children.
"I heard my father say, who sold sewing
machines way back in the old days, that if he
could get into a home that had a baby, and
especially the first baby, he would proceed
to sell to the father and mother the baby. I
mean by that, in all the realm of babyhood,
none compared with that child, and so, having
sold the father and mother on the baby, they
had such confidence in him that what he might
have to say relative to the sewing machine they
took as gospel truth!
"It is fascinating to talk to these fellow
purveyors of that great art. In this world
there is no greater art than purveyance of
music."
Mr. Frank Kimmel, Manager of the
Piano Department of May & Co., Cleve-
land, Ohio, was then called on and gave
his ideas of the music teacher in the
following manner:
"I question sometimes what is a music
teacher. Professional men are all licensed be-
fore they hang out their shingles—doctors,
lawyers, and so forth. At the present time in
the State of Ohio there is a movement afoot.
There has been quite a strong music teacher
association formed out there whereby they are
trying to put a bill through our local house,
signed by the Governor, to license music teach-
ers. They have not yet been able to agree
upon an original standard of examination; I
don't believe they ever will, but I am just
wondering if that wouldn't be a very good
thing, if that did come about, because today,
we in the industry are constantly confronted
with any eighteen-year-old or sixteen-year-old
young lady who has had enough lessons to
play Humoresque rather nicely and starts tak-
ing pupils herself and calls herself a music
teacher.
"She learns through keeping her ears open
that some little girl's mother is going to get
a new piano and in she pops to all of the
downtown stores registering the name, which,
of course, goes back again to the original com-
mission evil.
Teachers Commission an Evil
"If you will remember, during the NRA,
when the code of retailing was formed, the
United States government and the business-
men who had cooperated with them, seemed to
feel that the payment of any fee to an outside
individual without the knowledge of the pur-
chaser of an article which in a sense was a
form of graft or bribery, was illegal, and we
in our store interpreted it to mean that teach-
ers could not receive commissions on the sale
of a piano. And during that time when the
NRA was in effect, we paid no music teachers'
commissions, and I do not believe that it made
our business suffer very much. I do know a
few deals were lost to competitors who did
continue to pay commissions, but I agree with
the previous speaker, that I think the com-
mission evil is an evil and should be discon-
tinued, which would result in that music mer-
chant getting the most from his local music
teachers who gave them the most in coopera-
tion.
After this enlightening comment, C.
D. Bond of the Weaver Piano Co., York,
Pa., rose and told how his company dealt
with music teachers:
Weaver's Plan Explained
"To make it short, fellows, we pay no money
commissions to any music teacher. We pay
beautiful commissions and get away with it in
good shape. We have a real plan of teaching
the children, and we do the preliminary teach-
ing in our store in order to sell pianos. We are
very frank about that. Then we turn the
pupils over to the teacher if the teacher is a
modern one, and we have a list of modern
teachers.
"We believe that the way to teach is to play
the piano and then if they get along, let them
go ahead and become an artist. It is the same
thing as the public schools are doing.
"We have a retail store in York which we
use as a laboratory and we try not to give
anything to the dealers that isn't workab'e.
It took us about six years to work up our plan
which is called the 'look and play' plan. We
get the children in and teach them the 'look
and play' method, which was developed by
the manufacturers, and we guarantee that any
normal child will play the piano after a
thirty-minute lesson. That sounds pretty easy,
and it is easy.
"No child is a moron. Every child can learn
to play because music is more natural than
speech. A baby will sing before it will speak.
We can take a test with all confidence that
they are going to buy a piano. After six or
eight lessons we hold a little recital. They
only play chords. Then we start to sell pianos.
If we can sell before, we do it. During the de-
pression, 80 per cent of our sales in Newark
were made through the 'look and play' method.
As business got better, we could drop some of
them.
"Now the teacher angle: We gave them a
dinner, which is a nice way to get at them.
Everybody enjoys a good dinner. Then we
told them very frankly we were through pay-
ing commissions in money. 'The best way of
selling your services is by means of samples,'
we told them. If they could give out samples
of pianos, it would be the best way. If you
don't believe that, just ask Wrigley, or Ivory
Soap. The teachers have ethics and they don't
advertise, and there are a lot of things they
don't do. They usually get their pupils through
their former pupils. The way to get the busi-
ness is to give samples, so we said to the
teachers, 'You give some samples/
"We got a few teachers to agree and we
got the best teacher in our town to agree to
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do that, and then the rest flocked in. We sell
the piano and after we have it sold we give a
list of teachers to the customer and tell him
to select a teacher. They can have a choice of
a fifty-cent, one-dollar, or one-dollar-and-fifty-
cent teacher. Then that teacher gives the child
six lessons for nothing. We don't tell them the
teacher gives them for nothing. We keep quiet
about that.
"Then, if that teacher is a good teacher and
can hold the child, the teacher has a pupil.
"We have the whole thing laid out in a
definite plan, and if you fellows would like to
have it, if you write to the Weaver Piano Com-
pany, we will send you a book that gives you
instructions on how to make the survey in
your town, how to find your prospects, how
to go about teaching—we don't charge for our
teaching—and then how to handle the teacher
afterward. I believe it is woth while. It is a
tremendous amount of detail that takes hard
work, and it is no fun, but if you do the hard
work you are going to get profit out of it."
This concluded the first half of the
afternoon session, and then Earl Rice,
Manager of the Piano Department of
Strawbridge & Clothier of Philadelphia,
took over. In this part of the meeting
he drew attention to the subjects in
hand and pointed out that to make a Suc-
cess honesty is a most necessary quali-
fication.
At the end of his introduction he
called on Ray Fagan, Manager of the
Piano Department of Sibley, Lindsay
and Curr, Rochester, whose speech was
on "How Shall the Salesman Demon-
strate the Piano?"
Don't Play Too Much
"I really believe that the bigger danger is in
playing too much, rather than too little, and
we consider that very many satisfactory sales-
men cannot play at all, that point becomes
very obvious. Of course, the playing salesman
has a tremendous advantage over the non-
playing salesman, but he seldom makes use of
it. He seldom plays the right music, and he
seldom works as hard, because it is so much
easier for him to sell pianos.
"I have worked in stores where the playing
salesman was forbidden to play, for the fear
that he might demonstrate his talents some
day on a piano that should be seen but not
heard. Care should be exercised in the selec-
tion of what you are going to play for the
customer. It is very important what you select,
but it is much more important how you play it,
as you will see in a little demonstration I will
try to give you later.
'Any piano can be made to sound badly.
Those of you who have had pianos out on ap-
proval and your competitor got in on it know
very well what I mean! Also the salesman that
can play like finding good arguments for sell-
ing should find the weak and fine points in
his piano, especially the small pianos, so that
he will not make a mistake. He should always
pay to demonstrate the piano, rather than his
talent.
"There is a little general test, very simple,
which I will show you in a few minutes, which
can be applied to most any piano, and I believe
all pianos will sound good under this little
test. To a point of rudeness, I never allow
anyone to play on a piano with a customer un-
til I have played on it. We consider that no
musician no music teacher, is qualified in any
way to judge a piano or to test a piano or to
tell you anything intelligently about it. You
can see the danger of letting such a person
come in and sit down at the piano and try it
for the benefit of the customer.
"One of the biggest teachers in one of the
biggest schools of America, the Eastman
School of Music, came into our store two weeks
ago, tried a very lovely Grand piano, and then
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