Music Trade Review

Issue: 1927 Vol. 85 N. 27

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The Music Trade Review
H. H. Fleer, of Lyon 6? Healy, Talks
of Problem of Teachers' Commissions
Where Legitimate Assistance Is Given Merchant in Making Sale, Teacher Should Be
Paid Legitimate Commissions—Checking the Graft in the Problem
J J RRMAN H. FLEER, secretary of the Na- ment which will harmonize with the architec-
•*• -*• tional Association of Music Merchants and
vice-president of Lyon & Healy, Chicago, in a
recent interview declared that one of the prob-
lems of the piano merchant to-day is that of
H. H. Fleer
paying commissions to music teachers and
other who influence, or pretend to influence,
sales, and regard the dealer as legitimate prey.
Steadily growing competition serves to em-
phasize this problem, and as a solution Mr.
Fleer believes that eaoh dealer should align him-
self with teachers of standing in his community,
have them use their best efforts to bring cus-
tomers into his store, and recompense them for
those efforts, at the same time ignoring the de-
mands of the grafting element.
"There is no objection whatever," said Mr.
Fleer, "to paying a music teacher a commission
where the teacher really does give legitimate
assistance to the dealer in making a sale to
either a pupil or anyone who may rely upon
the judgment of the teacher in question. This
is work which should rightfully be paid for.
"What the music merchant objects to, and
justly so, is where a teacher goes the rounds
of various stores and in some cases files the
name of a prospect with half a dozen dealers
and really does no actual work whatever in
the selection of a piano or influencing a sale.
The teacher should be specific in her recom-
mendations, and if the customer buys elsewhere,
she should get nothing. The teacher should be
just as close to a retail piano store as a sales-
man for that house.
"The average music teacher knows next to
nothing about the construction of a piano. The
teacher should receive instruction from a piano
house so that she can talk intelligently with a
prospective customer and have something other
to say than just the expression of opinion as
to the tone of the instrument. The teacher
should familiarize herself with the strong sell-
ing points about the various pianos handled in
any store with which she is allied.
"There are others beside teachers who occa-
sionally ask for commission. In some cases
the commission is justified. Occasionally we
have a call from some retail house in another
line of business saying that they could influence
the sale of a piano and asking what commission
there will be in it for them. To such an in-
quiry, our answer is, 'Nothing.'
"On the other hand, we work very closely
with interior decorators. We feel that an in-
terior decorator is legitimately entitled to a
commission because he has a great deal to do
with the selection of a particular style of instru-
tural design and furnishing of the home. "This
is a subject which may profitably come up for
discussion at one of our convention sessions."
The trade-in problem was also discussed by
Mr. Fleer. He said that it is of course obvious
to all dealers that the trade-ins cost the dealer
altogether too much money.
"It seems," said Mr. Fleer, "that when busi-
ness is bad the average dealer has a tendency
to make larger trade allowances than he ordi-
narily would, with a result that there is a corre-
sponding dec/ease in profits. In about 75 per
cent of the cases, the customer with a piano to
trade in, is smarter than the dealer.
"I knew of a case recently here in Chicago
where a customer was in the market for a re-
producing piano, having an old player grand
to turn in in exchange. The customer went to
one house and after talking with the salesman
said that a certain other house had offered an
allowance of $1,650 for the old player grand.
This was after the salesman had offered $1,000
for the trade-in. Immediately afterwards, the
customer went to the other house and told
identically the same story. Fortunately the.e
two houses were on very good terms and a tele-
phone conversation between the two resulted
in their both adhering to the offer of an allow-
ance of $1,000 and no more. The sale was made
by one of the houses and the allowance was
fixed at $1,000. This was all the instrument
was worth as a trade-in; but if there had been
no co-operation between the houses in question,
one or the other might quite possibly have met
the alleged offer of the other of $1,650.
"There are retail houses who mark up the
price of new instruments with the direct pur-
pose of making apparently large allowances on
trade-ins, and to take care of customer dis-
counts, but this is not the right way for a house
to operate."
Benches in the White
SOUTH
ACTON,
MASS., December 24.—The A.
Merriam Co., manufacturer of piano stools and
benches, reports it has received very heavy de-
mands for the special period benches, and that
its manufacturing facilities have been taxed
to keep up with this demand. This company
has given particular attention to the prepara-
DECEMBER 31, 1927
tion of a unique line of upholstered benches
and benches in period designs that have found
a ready market. Another departure in the Mer-
i iam organization is the production of benches
in the white which allows the piano manufac-
turer to finish the bench to match the instru-
ment exactly.
St. Louis Trade Views
Next Year With Optimism
Past Year Generally Satisfactory Considering
Tornadoes, Floods and Other Untoward Con-
ditions
ST. LOUIS, December 27.—The year of 1927 has
been a satisfactory one from the standpoint of
the St. Louis piano and other music trades,
according to the opinions of local dealers, who
look for a continuance of the generally favor-
able conditions during the coming year, if not
a slight increase.
The situation as a whole in St. Louis was
summed up by one of the leading dealers of
the city, who preferred that his name be not
used. He pointed out that while the talking
machine and radio trade has been good, the
demand for pianos and band instruments was
sporadic, but fairly good.
"The past year has been an unusually profit-
able one for the talking machine and radio
trade," he said. "Both of these lines witnessed
an extraordinary demand, and the results of
tlie year should show a good increase over last
year. The piano business, while not remark-
able, has been on the whole satisfactory. The
demand for pianos during the year has been
sporadic, with moderate-priced instruments
more or less favored, although better and more
high-priced pianos moved in fairly good volume
during the holiday season. Virtually the same
situation existed in band instruments and
smaller goods during the earlier part of the
year, although the demand for these strength-
ened later, and should end the year in fairly
good condition.
"The recent St. Louis tornado, the Missis-
sippi Valley floods and other similar factors
all had their effect upon the local trade, as
well as other businesses, and to this condition
can be ascribed most of the weaknesses that
the trade exhibited during the past year. But
on the whole, the music trade was sound, and
generally satisfactory and 1928 should be
equally as good if not better."
George M. Reese, Jr., formerly general man-
ager of the Gewehr Piano Co., Wilmington,
Del., has joined the staff of the Robclen Piano
Co. that city.
Reproducers and New Merchandising
(Continued from page 3)
prospects in fact should be the foundation of
that although the reproducing piano is an in-
all reproducing piano merchandising; and that
strument for the connoisseur there are plenty
means personal work based upon intelligent
of connoisseurs to keep the sales going. Sec-
demonstration. Once more comes in the per- ond, we must understand that selling costs can
sonal factor, the factor of personal interest in be kept down only when sales work is done
the music which the instrument renders. No personally by seeking out the prospective pur-
salesman can sell reproducing pianos success- chasers and working with them. Thirdly, it is
fully who is not personally interested in and t vident that the only kind of salesmanship
acquainted with the work of the recording which can bear up against aggressive competi-
artists and with all the musical side of the tion in other fields is salesmanship based upon
thing. That may be taken as axiomatic.
musical interest and not upon social value. In
So we arrive at this situation. The repro- other words, the reproducing piano is not likely
ducing piano is costly, but can hardly be made t much cheaper save at an undesirable sacrifice alone. Given due attention to the principle of
of quality. Service is costly to a public not musical demonstration, however, it can go dur-
yet educated to understand that the piano in- ing 1928 farther than it has gone even in its
dustry no more than the motor car industry best years hitherto.
can afford to give it without charge. Competi-
Must Be Sold
tion within the same price range is formidable
In a word, the reproducing piano must here-
and aggressively organized. What then are after be sold, for one can be reasonably sure
the probabilities of the future?
than it will no longer merely be bought. And
Good Enough
the selling must hereafter be based on music,
Good enough if only we take the actual facts not on mere social values, which have already
into consideration. First, then, we must realize begun to pass on to other fields.
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Here Is How
The Carrying Charge
Is Working Out
INLY one Salt Lake City music house
has adopted the carrying charge method
for handling time payments, and this
firm is one of the smaller houses and does not
carry pianos. They have used the carrying
charge system for four or five years, and are O'Loughlin said only about twice
thoroughly "sold" on it. Some of the other have prospects objected to this
plan, preferring the interest plan.
merchants expressed themselves as in favor of
the plan, and one firm said they expect to adopt "We figured out the interest in
it after the first of the new year. Others said these cases," said Mr. O'Lough-
they were studying it carefully. One merchant lin, "but when we got through
we just added it to the total and
expressed opposition to it.
Alvin A. Beesley, manager of the Beesley it was found to be satisfactory
Music Co., old-established music house with a after all." And so in these cases
branch in Ogden, said his firm had not adopted the finance plan was used, too. Mr. O'Loughlin
Dean R. Daynes, Consolidated Music Co.,
the carrying charge method, but he would very said they even have accessories priced with both one of larger stores, and brother of General
much like to see it adopted. It would mean a cash and time-payment charges. He said they have Manager Royal W. Daynes, said they handle
change in their bookkeeping system, and certain a higher rate for radios than phonographs, but he pianos that the manufacturers set a price upon,
was not prepared to discuss details, saying that he permitting an additional charge for freight, and
other changes, including a little campaign of
educating the public, he said. "But we are cer- would rather not do this until all the firms are they had a charge of 8 per cent interest when
tainly converted to it," said Mr. Beesley, "and sold on the idea. The salesmen of this firm are time payments are to apply, as they do in a
we expect to adopt it after the first of the instructed to never refer to "interest" or "carry- very large proportion of the business. In some
ing charges," but to always call it "finance plan." merchandise, he said, there is a price which
year."
Thomas J. Holland, manager of the Salt Lake permits of a small discount for cash. Mr.
Col. Joseph J. Daynes, president and general
manager of the Daynes-Beebe Music Co., one City store of the Glen Bros.-Roberts Piano Co. Daynes said their contracts had been as at
of the largest music houses in the city, said his of Utah and Idaho and a director of the firm, present for forty years. He did not favor the
firm may adopt the plan some time. They have said his firm has been studying the plan for carrying charge plan, in this city, any way, he
been making a study of it, he said, and were the past two years, but has so far not made said. Mr. Daynes, the general manager, said,
still doing so, but at present Colonel Daynes any decision in regard to it. "I am in favor "Our company has been considering this plan,
said he was not able to say whether they fa- of it myself," said Mr. Holland, "and I suppose but nothing has been decided about it up till
the present time."
vored it or not. A further study of it would be it is now a case of getting it ironed out."
made.
Mrs. Ethel Olin, manager of the Utah Music
Co., a company handling pianos, talking ma-
chines and radio only, said she was in favor of
the carrying charge method of handling time
payments. "But," she added, "it can't be done
ifMess all do it, especially as far as the smaller Progressive Youngstown, O., Concern Has Ac- Baldwin Piano Selected by Engineers as Best
complished Much With the Melody Way
Suited for Recording Work in Connection
stores like our own are concerned. They must
Plan—Classes at Frequent Intervals
With New Talking Motion Pictures
have the support of the others. I surely think
this plan would eliminate a lot of our grief,
On several occasions The Review has called
As a result of careful and exhaustive tests
and we have certainly had plenty of it during
the last few years with the instalment business." attention to the success realized by the Yahr- the Baldwin piano has been selected as the
Harry O'Loughlin, of O'Loughlin's, one of ling-Rayner Music Co. of Youngstown, O., in official piano for use in connection with the
the smaller stores of the city and one not han- conducting group instruction classes for the Vitaphone features, according to announcement
dling pianos at the present time, said, "It is the youngsters of that city, and it is now announced made by the Baldwin Piano Co. The Vita-
that with the completion of the latest course phone, the successful talking picture combina-
only system. We have been using it for four or
five years now. It has worked out perfectly, too. conducted under the auspices of that company tion controlled by the Vitaphone Corp., New
last month over 1,000 Youngstown children York, of which Harry M. Warner, head of War-
We call it financing, not carrying charge. We
have been taught to play the piano by the ner Bros., the local picture producers, is presi-
keep away from the term carrying charge and
our clerks are instructed to refer to it as financ- Melody Way System. The interesting point is dent, made its bow to the public close to a
ing. Carrying charge has the suggestion of a that the Yahrling-Rayner Music Co. has real- year ago and has been particularly well re-
ized many thousands of dollars in sales as a ceived wherever shown.
burden about it, and we want to keep away
result of the initial instruction, the results be-
from that. We add this charge to the price
The Baldwin piano was selected by the engi-
and then tell the customer what the total would ing sufficient to warrant them repeating the neers of the Vitaphone Corp., because of its
be. We believe our patrons like this plan; courses with new pupils at frequent intervals in tonal qualities, which were decided to be par-
they know just what they are to pay." Mr. the future.
ticularly fitted for recording purposes.
O
in
Salt Lake City
Yahrling-Rayner Music Go, The Baldwin Official
Has Trained Over 1,000
Instrument for Vitaphone
ESTABLISHED 1862
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