Music Trade Review

Issue: 1896 Vol. 23 N. 15

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THE MUSIC TRADE REVIEW
SPECIALTY TALK5.
MR. BOOTHE—Lots of them. It isn't what
the pianos cost on your floor, or what it
costs to sell them alone that manufacturers
QUESTIONS PROPOUNDED BY THE " REVIEW " UPON THE. LIVE MATTERS OF THE DAY AND must take into consideration—it's June,
July and August—accidents that cause de-
ANSWERED BY LEADING MEN IN THE TRADE.
lay, and add unforeseen expense and
numerous other expensive contingencies.
The only man who is safe in estimating
cost, is the manufacturer who can figure a
hundred dollars gross margin on paper, but
T TNDER the above head THE REVIEW making the buying public believe that they
believes in but ten dollars net.
y^J proposes to give weekly the expressed are giving vastly superior goods to the
REVIEW—Can a manufacturer make and
views of some members of the trade upon other fellow, quality taken into considera-
matters which are of live interest.
It tion, at lower figures. The commercial sell pianos, selling for $100 or less, and
should be understood that the answers to piano, however, is a great, big, assured make any headway, unless he is manufac-
these inquiries will be published in every fact, and has come to stay—by the com- turing at least fifty pianos a week?
MR. BOOTHE—That's another question
instance without editorial criticism.
In mercial piano, understand, I do not mean,
other words, every "specialty talk" will strictly speaking, the cheap piano, but a that you asked before. I infer you want
fairly express the sentiment of the individ- piano sold strictly on its merit at a fair ad- to know if a good piano can be built under
a hundred dollars at a profit. 1 say again,
ual under whose name it appears, rather vance over cost.
than the editorial belief of THE REVIEW.
REVIEW—Mr. Boothe, to get right down no, not at a profit.
REVIEW—Mr. Boothe, some of the trade
There will be no distortion; no boiling to the discussion of solid matters, is the
down. The answers will be published with- hundred dollar piano profitable for those papers have accused you of manufacturing
what is known in trade vocabulary as
out change or comment, and in every case engaged in its manufacture?
"rattle boxes." What say you to this
the individuality of the one whose opinions
MR. BOOTHE—Have you ever heard of
are expressed will be preserved. We pro- anyone becoming a Jay Gould from the charge?
pose in this way to build one of the most profitsof | i o o pianos? No; then I haven't
MR. BOOTHE—What have I to say ? Well,
interesting features which a trade paper can either, and for the simplest of all reasons— really, you surprise me. I, accused of
offer to its readers. This week Mr. Bcoihe
making "rattle boxes" ? Those are things for
favors us with a talk.
babies, are they not? I'm not in the rattle
box business. I am making pianos—you
don't
see any sign over this door that indi-
REVIEW—Mr. Boothe, as your rise as a
cates
that this is a rattle box factory, do
manufacturer during the past three years
you?
However, if you mean that certain
of unusual business depression has been
papers
have said that we are slaughtering
somewhat phenomenal, your opinions re-
prices,
and
could not therefore make a reli-
garding present and future piano conditions
able article at the figures, then I have to
will be of interest to the readers of THE
say in answer, that every dealer in the
REVIEW. In the first place, Mr. Boothe, do
United States knows why any trade paper
you consider that the "cheap" piano has
attacks
a manufacturer, and attempts to in-
come to stay? In other words, do you not
jure
his
business by the publication of ma-
consider it an emergency piano?
licious statements. Further comment is
MR. BOOTHE—If you mean by "cheap''
superfluous.
pianos, the poorly constructed affairs made
REVIEW—What do you consider next year
to sell for five dollars less than the other
will
be the average price for an alleged
fellows, no, decidedly no. If, on the con
"rattle
box"?
What for a cheap piano?
trary, you mean a commercial piano that
what
for
a
medium
or a commercial instru-
will stand ordinary wear and tear, made to
ment?
sell solely on its merits without any charge
MR. BOOTHE—By "rattle boxes" I sup-
for name, I should say, yes.
pose
you mean pianos; well, for "rattle
REVIEW—Having once fairly bridged
boxes"
anything you can get. For commer-
over the hard times, do you not consider
cial
pianos,
anywhere from the lowest
WM.
F.
BOOTHE.
that the cheap piano will become both ad-
figure
to
$250;
for the medium, anywhere
to
make
pianos
profitable
at
this
figure
they
vanced in price and quality?
from the highest figure down to $250. I
would
have
to
be
constructed
in
much
larger
MR.'BOOTHE—Those cheap manufacturers
think that the average piano will retail from
who have managed to bridge over the quantities than any factory at present can
$275
to $350, on installments; any dealer
tight times will, if they remain in business, produce, and would have to be made up so
should
know therefore what he can afford
of necessity advance prices. In proof of cheaply that no dealer .would handle them.
to
pay
for
pianos. Pianos will never again
this statement, call to mind the manufactur- Mind you, I don't say that there are not
see
the
low
figures of the year past; the
ers who have failed this year from the mere good pianos made for $100, but those
good
times
for
the close buying dealer with
fact, as shown by their final statements, manufacturers who are offering a good
a
pocket
full
of
ten dollar bills and heart
that they were selling goods at less than piano at this figure, do so simply as a bid
full
of
gall,
is
a
thing
of the past.
cost; for instance, Keller, of Bridgeport, for their other styles on which perhaps
REVIEW—You have read, no doubt, of the
Prince & Son, Apollo piano, Shaeffer, they may clear some profit; but depend
Russell, Muehlfeld & Haynes, and others. upon it, the fellow who has not other styles agitation of the "$75 box." Do you con-
With very few exceptions have losses had to help out his $100 piano, must either lose sider that it exists to any appreciable ex-
anything to do with these failures' As to money or make a very poor affair, in order tent save in the minds of imaginative
editors?
quality, how can the cheap piano advance to show any profit at all.
MR. BOOTHE—There is a miniature piano
in quality, unless it advances in price?
REVIEW—In your opinion, can a manu-
made
for $75, I think by the firm of
facturer
sell
pianos
costing
$100
or
less
and
REVIEW—Do you consider that the cheap
. What you want to know is, if
make
headway?
piano will become merged in what we may
there
is
any regular 4ft. 6 piano being
MR.
BOOTHE—Have
answered
that
ques-
term the great,mass of commercial pianos?
made
at
this
figure. No, and every trade
tion
before.
No—decidedly
no.
MR. BOOTHE—I think you will find the
editor
who
says
so lies, and every dealer
REVIEW—Do
you
not
think
that
there
piano trade of the future about the same as
who
asks
for
them
is a fool. Friend Bill,
are
manufacturers
to-day
who
really
do
not
in the past—certain enterprising and ener-
let
me
tell
you
something
about the $75
know
the
actual
cost
of
a
piano?
getic manufacturers will always succeed in
Interview XIX.~Wm. F. Boothe.
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myth—that is to say, the piano that is
spoken of as being sold regularly at the
fixed price of $75. Certain trade papers
with more brains than honesty and d
little of either, started in sometime since to
injure, ruin, if possible, the business of
certain cheap manufacturers, knowing that
the pianos made by these concerns could
not be built for anything like $75; they
deliberately put the lie before the public
that the pianos of these makers were
actually being sold at a regular stated price
of $75. Many ignorant dealers, and I re-
gret to say in some cases, men from whom
you would expect better, swallowed the
bait, and accordingly came to the conclu-
sion that they had been paying too much
for their goods. If those dealers had only
stopped to consider they would have seen
that a paper advertising a firm as a maker
of a $75 box, simply wishes to ruin that
maker's business by placing a figure on his
pianos, impossible to meet. While I am
on the subject, I want to say that I never
saw in the columns of your paper a discus-
sion concerning a manufacturer's price.
But the ruinous figures at which pianos
in the past have been sold is, in my opinion,
due to the policy followed by a certain New
York trade paper. Stop to consider a mo-
ment—most of the supply men find prob-
ably three-fourths of the volume of their
trade among the cheap makers.
Their
chances of selling this class of trade at a
profit, is dependent upon the ability of the
cheap trade to sell their trade at a profit.
Let a few more of these trade papers keep
on with their dissemination of false state-
ments, and no one will make any profit.
Friend Bill, muzzle the mouths of some
of these rampant, blatant, unprincipled
editors, make them learn in some way that
the trade which puts bread in their mouths
is fully competent to run its business with-
out assistance, and you won't have any
grounds in future for asking questions
about the $75 piano. A trade paper that
gives the buying public any information
whatever about the cost of making pianos,
not only hurts the business of the cheap
manufacturer, but that of the high-priced
maker as well, as it puts in the head of the
buyer a startling idea, to wit: if this piano
can be built for $100, why should I pay
$300 for this?
REVIEW—Do you consider that there are
more than three firms in America who
manufacture the "$75 box,"and do you be-
lieve that such a box will be manufactured
at all six months hence?
MR. BOOTHE—There is no one in America
making a piano for $75, but you will find the
tendency in the next six months towards
an increase in price, rather than a reduction.
REVIEW—Will not, as time rolls on, the
lines become more sharply defined between
the medium and the high price piano, and
will not the cheap piano of to-day be
merged into the first named class?
MR. BOOTHE—The lines are already close-
ly drawn. Certain high-priced makers
will always depend on prestige; the com-
mercial piano manufacturer advertises the
firm name rather than the pianos he makes.
THE MUSIC TRADE REVIEW
One will become known as the mere maker
of pianos, the other as the manufacturer of
the Jones, or Smith, or whatever the name
of his piano may be.
REVIEW—It has been said that you be-
lieve that the real future of the piano busi-
ness lies in the establishment of branches.
Is this rumor correct? If so, on what
grounds do you maintain the belief?
MR. BOOTHE—The successful piano man
of the future will be the one who absorbs
gradually all the profits, from the first stick
of wood that goes into the piano, until it
is finally landed in the home of the retail
purchaser.
I base this belief on the
knowledge that it is a fact that the two big
pushing houses in the trade are gradually
extending what are nothing more nor less
than branch houses, into every part of the
United States.
REVIEW—A word about the stencil; what
percentage, in your estimation, of the
cheap pianos made to-day are instruments
of stencil make, that is to say, pianos hav-
ing no definite origin?
MR. BOOTHE—That is a difficult matter
to estimate. Should say fully two-fifths of
the pianos made in the United States are
pianos that do not bear the name of the
maker. Just a word about the stencil
pianos. It makes no difference what name
is on a piano if it is good. Dealers do not
order stenciled pianos because they are
afraid to expose the name of the maker,
but simply because the demand of the deal-
ers has exceeded the capacity of the cheap
manufacturers to supply goods and guaran-
tee protection. Therefore, several dealers
in the same locality may handle the goods
of the same firm. They, therefore, do not
stencil in order to alone deceive the cus-
tomer as to the origin of the piano, but
rather to protect themselves from other
dealers who, failing to sell some customer,
adopt the "dog in the manger" policy of
exposing bills in order that his competitor
cannot possibly sell. It's the dealer, not the
manufacturer, who is responsible for the
growth of the stencil trade. As a matter of
fact, any manufacturer would prefer to sell
his goods under his own name, and when a
trade paper attacks a stencil manufacturer,
it attacks the very vitals of the trade from
which it derives its support.
REVIEW—What part of the country to-day
do you consider the best for piano trade
development?
MR. BOOTHE—As we sell mostly in the
United States, we should consider Europe
and other foreign countries a first-class
field for our competitors to develop. We
don't want the earth anyway, but seriously
the West and the South is, in my opinion,
ripe for development.
The Trade Directory, which is a feature
of The Rcviczv each month, is complete. In
it appears the names and addresses of all
firms engaged in the manufacture of musical
instruments and the allied trades. The Re-
view noiv is sent to the United States Con-
sulates throughout the world, and is on file
in the reading rooms of the principal hotels
in America.
The "Capen" Piano.
THE BROCKPORT
PIANO MANUFACTURING CO.
ISSUE A CATALOGUE OF THEIR LATEST
STYLES WHICH SHOULD PROVE OF
INTEREST TO THE DEALER.
' T H E supplementary catalogue which has
1
just been issued by the Brockport
Piano Manufacturing Co., of Brockport, N.
Y., affords eloquent testimony of the pro-
gressiveness of this firm and their success-
ful efforts in producing a number of new
styles for the fall trade.
It is a great pleasure for us to commend
most highly the four new designs which are
shown in this publication. They are artis-
tic products; ornate without being loud or
"showy," well proportioned and neatly con-
ceived in all architectural details. They
show a distinct advance, and cannot fail to
make a marked impression on the trade.
Styles H and M, cabinet grand uprights,
which are made in all the fancy woods with
handsome automatic extension desk, hand
carved panels, trusses and pilasters, are
really beautiful instruments. Styles F and
S, although not quite as elaborate as the
other two designs, are neat specimens of
up-to-date piano making.
The manufacturers of the "Capen''
pianos are quite modest in their claims,
but the following paragraph is significant:
"We shall, however, hold ourselves free to
make any changes or improvements that,
in the future, may seem desirable." This
indicates the progressive policy of the house
which has been so effectively displayed in
the quartette of instruments illustrated in
this catalogue.
Beauty of case, however, is not alone
sufficient to sell a piano and it is onl} 7 cor-
rect to state that dealers, and, in fact, all
who have examined the "Capen" pianos,
state that for tone, touch, finish and general
appearance, they are among the best instru-
ments for the money on the market to-day.
They are carefully and conscientiously
made, and cannot fail to win a large con-
stituency of admirers.
It will be to the interest of dealers to look
up these instruments and carefully examine
them. They will find that the manufactur-
ers are placing an excellent piano on the
market, an article which it will pay them to
handle.
We hope, in the near future, to present
illustrations of some of the latest style
"Capen" pianos; in the meantime we
should advise dealers not receiving a copy
of this well-printed supplementary cata-
logue to at once write the publishers.
Norris & Hyde.
I
N the West and South, as well as the
East, the Norris & Hyde transposing
keyboard seems to be making hosts of
friends. A number of new agents and im-
portant orders have recently been added to
the roster by this enterprising Boston firm,
who are certain to experience a still greater
activity after the election excitement has
subsided.

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